I actually like metal mixed with dubstep
Neil Peart is overrated right along with Mike Portnoy and every other prog drummer. The worst was Mike fucking Mangini talking about how he had all his "dark cymbals on the right and bright cymbals on the left so I can change keys when the song does." Fuck off.
Note: I loves me some Rush, I just get tired of people talking about Peart like he's god.
Yes, he is. Because everyone with a vague drumming knowledge ejaculates every time the guy's name is mentioned like he's The Drum God and everyone else on the planet is some mere plebian.
He's great, Rush is awesome, obviously deserves a spot on the all-time best list, but I get so fucking tired of people tripping over their drool to talk about how he's the greatest EVARRRRR.
Gavin Harrison is the best drummer alive.
Yes. Porcupine Tree = Best prog band ever.
No that would be Opeth. I love Porcupine Tree but there are tons of bands better than them, Katatonia, Symphony X, Dream Theater (as a whole) etc.
I will smite you to into the deepest, darkest, depths of hell where you will stay and suck a giant red creatures cock while listening to Britney Spear's, Oops I did it again, over and over again.
No that would be Opeth. I love Porcupine Tree but there are tons of bands better than them, Katatonia, Symphony X, Dream Theater (as a whole) etc.
Note: I loves me some Rush, I just get tired of people talking about Peart like he's god.
My feeling is that the best progressive bands aren't metal bands. They are progressive rock bands. And the best metal bands are mainly committed to the riff and the power and/or darkness and/or energy of metal. The most interesting thing about the Porcupine Tree show I saw was that the dude didn't wear socks while he mercilessly ripped off the Pink Floyd songs I grew up with.
I'm not sure who's heard what, but some progressive rock that I adore---
Close to the Edge & Drama by Yes.
Court of the Crimson King, Larks Tongues in Aspic, Islands & Red by King Crimson.
There's the Rub & Argus by Wishbone Ash
Animals & Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd.
Minstrel in the Gallery & Thick as a Brick & Stormwatch by Jethro Tull
Interview & Three Friends by Gentle Giant.
Cherry Five & Roller by Goblin.
One Size Fits All by Frank Zappa
Darwin by Banco
Ut by New Trolls
Once the sound stage is defined by heavy riffing guitars---as it is in HEAVY METAL---it overpowers the mix of instruments and is the focus alongside dramatic singing and (in extreme metals) drumming, which is a lot of what I like about metal.
Other than Katatonia--who I like, but are closer to Depeche Mode and the Cure in spirit since the Discouraged Ones---most of these prog metal bands don't work for me. They split the difference of two things I adore and give me the rewards of neither genre.
Emperor's IX Equilibrium is one of the only truly progressive metal albums I dig. Also, Anacrusis, Screams & Whispers.
Opeth, Fates Warning, Spiral Architect, Watchtower...meh. This does not go as far a Crimson did 40+ years ago and is not as powerful and empowering as Megadeth is on Rust in Peace or Destroyer 666 is on Phoenix Rising or Mayhem is on Wolf's Lair Abyss.
I like how you take the drummer's actual talent and contributions to music into account when you determine if they're overrated.
Btw, you're all dead wrong anyway. Gavin Harrison is the best drummer alive.
No that would be Opeth. I love Porcupine Tree but there are tons of bands better than them, Katatonia, Symphony X, Dream Theater (as a whole) etc.
Most of the people in the andy sneap forum have terrible taste in music.
I’ve seen a few people post on here that prog rock is better than prog metal. I couldn’t disagree more. I’d take Opeth, Dream Theater, or any technical/prog death metal over prog rock any day of the week.
To be honest I find most ‘prog rock’ to be dreadfully dull and boring. Obvious exceptions include Porcupine Tree and Rush.
Prog rock can be dry but at least '70s prog had direction.
Robert plant is a fucking bad ass. Anyone that thinks otherwise is fucking retarded.
Ive seen a few people post on here that prog rock is better than prog metal. I couldnt disagree more. Id take Opeth, Dream Theater, or any technical/prog death metal over prog rock any day of the week.
To be honest I find most prog rock to be dreadfully dull and boring. Obvious exceptions include Porcupine Tree and Rush.
I think that's because PT and Rush didn't sit down and intentionally make "prog". They wanted to make rock but were creative and original enough that they were actually PROGRESSIVE and the label was just kinda foisted upon them.
It's kinda funny that prog is a label at ALL. If it's truly progressive, how can it have a distinct sound? Shouldn't progressive bands be, by definition, challenging institutions and forging new territory. The fact that "prog" bands all sound alike is almost ironic.