Einherjar86
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Those are three of the most disparate black metal acts you could think of.
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Those are three of the most disparate black metal acts you could think of.
AllShallFall
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Me too. The only metalcore I like is Killswitch Engage and Trivium. Anything other than that is crap
EffigyForgotten
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Eligos
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That, and most decent metalcore/"post-hardcore" has been classified into a different genre at this point.
Sludge is technically metalcore, for example. Doom Metal + Hardcore Punk = Sludge.
Oblivious Maximus
I am the worm
In The Arms of God is the best Corrosion of Conformity album. No offense to Reed Mullin who is a top shelf drummer but Stanton Moore is a fucking phenom. His performance on "Paranoid Opioid" alone is worth the price of admission.
HamburgerBoy
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Blind is my favorite by far, but beyond that one I might agree (although I haven't actually listened to it much).
80's/Cracked Brain-era Destruction easily had some of the most unique and interesting riffs of the larger names.
80's/Cracked Brain-era Destruction easily had some of the most unique and interesting riffs of the larger names.
Dak
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Dak
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I agree. I have yet to be able to get into any of Asphyx's stuff really. Not sure if it's the band or the production or Van Drunen or what. On Divine Winds is very similar to the previous HoB album as well as Asphyx's style (Van Drunen not being the least of similarities), yet ODW I find a top notch listen, while I've never finished an Asphyx album.
Dak
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I think the newest CoC album did Soundgarden better than Soundgarden did on King Animal, particularly on the song "Come Not Here".
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I still need to hear King Animal. Never noticed any Soundgarden similarities on CoC's S/T, but I only listened to it once and didn't like it at all. Listening to that song, I can totally hear it. Need to give it another chance.
Master_Yoda77
Juggalo
What in the fuck are you talking about? Unless you are trying to say that Metalcore = Metal = Hardcore, Deathcore = Death + Hardcore, then maybe I understand. Sorta explains why Sludge is gay as fuck.
KafkaX
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Krow
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Pretty sure the -core influence in sludge is totally fucking different than the fake kind found in deathcore.
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
I like Eyehategod. It's just that there happen to be like 5 worthy sludge bands instead of hundreds in the realm of BM/DM/Doom/etc.
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
Eligos
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I think you meant to say that Metalcore = Metal + Hardcore, and that is indeed what I was getting at. Since we all agree in this forum that "Metal" is a nebulous genre, and many of us seem to understand that Terror-influenced hardcore is completely different from the stuff Black Flag was cranking out in the 80's, it only makes sense that some additional categorization was necessary to clarify some serious differences in sound.
I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way about sludge, Schmidt, but it's not surprising at all.
I'm not completely sold on that, although I would have agreed with you a year ago. Would you say that Old Man Gloom plays Sludge?
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Mort Divine
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Eligos
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Alright awesome, I kinda thought that as well, but people call OMG a sludge band all the time. What about this?
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