Maybe this isn't really a controversial opinion, but I'm always surprised by the amount of metalheads, including some prominent members of this forum, who don't care for doom metal. I'm not exactly an aficionado but isn't it pretty close to metal in its purest form?
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SentinelSlain
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It's all well and good but stoner doom can be massively boring and I've never understood why it's more popular amongst the proles than traditional doom.
As for the general population of metalheads, I assume it has something to do with doom being less conducive to mindless pitfare than faster subgenres. As for this board, I haven't noticed much besides high praise.
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This forum is basically one giant doom pride orgy. You could call old-school doom "metal in its purest form" for its link to Black Sabbath alone I suppose, but when it comes to later variations, it can be almost as perverse and false as black metal.
Spiderchrist
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I'm not a huge fan of the genre. What are the classic albums worth checking out?
Vamos
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Agreed, Murkrat is awesome, own and love both of her albums. Can't wait for the next one.
Mort Divine
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considering funeral doom is only tangentially doom to begin with, yes it would be stupid
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You should hold an exhibition of degenerate art and fill it with stoner doom albums on plinths.
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That would be, of course, if you arbitrarily decide that a band is doom metal insofar as it sticks to the traditional doom metal style. But just because it sounds different than traditional doom metal it does not means that it is not doom metal.
Funeral Doom just like Traditional Doom is a style of doom metal, they are both part of the subgenera and products of it's evolution and diversification. They both have distinct characteristics so as to constitute different styles yet enough in common to fall under the doom metal label.
Krow
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FWIW I don't really consider funeral doom to be doom metal. Id rather call it drone/death or some shit. It really doesn't share that much in common with doom metal other than its slow. No real similarity to Sabbath or the other bands of the genre, whereas I could at least say it about death metal.
Serjeant Grumbles
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Yeah, sure, it's stupid to hold to the overwhelming consensus that funeral doom falls under the umbrella of doom metal.
Mort Divine
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There is more to doom than traditional doom...I don't get where you think I feel otherwise. Most sludge that isn't descended from Neurosis' sound. Stoner stuff like Electric Wizard and the like.
It isn't an "arbitrary" thing, it is for the exact reasons that Krow stated.
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As if the majority of death metal bands are significantly related to the earliest examples of that genre.
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Funeral doom is as much a part of doom metal as sludge, if not more so. It has more in common with doom metal than simply being slow. You need only listen to examples of typical "fast" metal songs slowed down to know what metal sounds like when its only doom attribute is a slow tempo. It conveys a sense of sadness and despair; this is where it earns the doom metal moniker.
You're welcome to disagree, but it becomes downright idiotic when you expect your own heterodox views on the matter to be taken as self-evident. I'd never even heard tell of the idea that funeral doom was not a sub-genre of doom metal until now.
Krow
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It shares a fuckton more than early doom metal and a genre with ten minute songs that drone onward to an uuuuuggggghhhh every minute or so.
I tend to agree with Mort and Krow on this, but I think I saw Mort or someone saying that a Warning song was the best trad doom song once....and it seemed very contradictory since Warning are about the least "traditional" doom band out there.
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