Dan, do you question existence?

Jesus was cool, he had good intentions and words of wisdom, it's the people who put Icons in churches who fucked things up.The whole idea of, "god is where people gather" is jewish and is still implemented to this day.my point is that while some people who take the icons and pictures just as a representation of god while others actually pray to the Icon.Let's assume jesus is god, praying to the Icon instead of jesus is still wrong so why put the icons in the churches in the first place and mislead some of the people when you can have no icons and all the believers' faith will be directed at jesus.
 
off course when I'm talking about jesus
I'm actually talking about this guy
mike-jesus.jpg

truelly a (guitar and vocal) god.
 
all this talk about jesus made me wanna watch DOGMA again...that movie was cool. my favorite charecter (besides Jay) was Goulgatha aka poopie boy.
 
here's a funny thing
somewhere along my nickname history prior to paradoxile,I was known as Mr. Kite(for being a burnout beatles fan and for constantly flying and paying attention) it was later shortened to Mr K.
So we can be "K and Silent Song"
now that's funny.

p.s
my real name is Ilan, feel free to use it just don't use it in vain.
 
Catholism has taken the bible and made into their own cult or beliefs. I dont see one mention of "the Pope" in the bible. And, lets not talk about forgiveness of sins for monetary exchange. So, you see it did feel wrong because Catholics are not biblical-stay away from denominations and you will be fine dude-Heathens is no way to live.

Yeah.. Silent Song. Ok, its interesting how you pick out only points to preach negativity. If you dont think Muslims and Muhammed waged many wars and killed people then look it up. Next, I guess you will say the Civil War didnt happen and you need hard evidence. Come on.. You keep replying for the sake of argument. I would agree though.. worship is where the heart is.. it has nothing to do with a building or place.

Be careful.. calling the Opeth guy a God is EXTREME blasphemy. I've read the lyrics of Opeth and they are far from being Holy I can assure you.

This thread was started for Dan, so your making a question that doesnt make sense dude. You chimed in, remember. And Dan is the King of this castle!
 
gar977 said:
Yeah.. Silent Song. Ok, its interesting how you pick out only points to preach negativity. If you dont think Muslims and Muhammed waged many wars and killed people then look it up. Next, I guess you will say the Civil War didnt happen and you need hard evidence. Come on.. You keep replying for the sake of argument. I would agree though.. worship is where the heart is.. it has nothing to do with a building or place.
If you don't think people have killed in the name of God just as much as in the name of Allah, I beg you to look into something called the Crusades. I, like you, believe in God and Christ, but I think you're not explaining the whole picture...
 
gar977 said:
Catholism has taken the bible and made into their own cult or beliefs. I dont see one mention of "the Pope" in the bible. And, lets not talk about forgiveness of sins for monetary exchange. So, you see it did feel wrong because Catholics are not biblical-stay away from denominations and you will be fine dude-Heathens is no way to live.

Yeah.. Silent Song. Ok, its interesting how you pick out only points to preach negativity. If you dont think Muslims and Muhammed waged many wars and killed people then look it up. Next, I guess you will say the Civil War didnt happen and you need hard evidence. Come on.. You keep replying for the sake of argument. I would agree though.. worship is where the heart is.. it has nothing to do with a building or place.

Be careful.. calling the Opeth guy a God is EXTREME blasphemy. I've read the lyrics of Opeth and they are far from being Holy I can assure you.

This thread was started for Dan, so your making a question that doesnt make sense dude. You chimed in, remember. And Dan is the King of this castle!

Eesh.. look man, you're not making all that much sense. Secterian violence is not limited to Islam. You don't even need to go waaaaaay back to the Crusades to find an instance of violence of Christians against non-Christians. There's tons - too many - examples of religious violence by Christians in the 20th century. Maronites in the civil war in Lebanon, Christian / Buddhist violence in Vietnam, Christian fundamentalist rebels in Uganda, abortion clinic bombers in the US, Christian animists and Arab Muslims in Sudan, and even anti Semitism in Europe has religious roots. Terrorism rooted in Islamic fundamentalism is just more spectacular because it has a political message and its delivery (suicide bombings, beheadings) assures that it gathers a lot of attention. But I assure you that less people have died from terrorism in the last 10-15 years than people have died from routine secterian violence between Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and others throughtout the world. All parties are equally guilty. You can't justify blaming any one side.

It's also problematic that you blame the religious beliefs of others for conflict. You have to understand something. You have a very SPECIFIC interpretation of what the "truth" is. Your very, very evident lack of meaningful knowledge of Islam or Catholicism causes you to make indefensible - and incorrect - statements about these religions. For example, you use the Islamic conquests as an example of Mohammed's "violence", yet you fail to mention the Roman Empire, in its Emperor Constantine end of days was a Christian empire that waged brutal war against its neighbors, in name of both the Empire and of Christianity. Jesus Christ may be the most important figure in Christianity, but many of the figures responsible for Christianizing the Western world used violence to ensure the spread of Christianity as a religion.

I think you need read a lot more about the ideas and religions you criticize, and not crazy propaganda pages set up by amatuers (such as that hilarious "truth about Islam" website). Pick up "The Prophet and the Age of Caliphates" by Hugh Kennedy if you're honestly interested in developing an understanding of early Islam. That's a good starting point and it has a very good bibliography, one that will allow you to explore the literature on the subject. You should know, and know well, that what exactly Islam is and what it is supposed to represent is hotly contested among Muslims, just like the meaning and essence of Christianity is contested by Christians. In spite of your assertions that Catholicism is not Christianity (which is a very radical, fundamentalist Christian argument that I do not see often from Protestants), you have to accept that whether you believe that or not is predicated precisely in your beliefs, and not in the question of whether or not Catholicism is a valid form of Christianity.
 
I am stupid...
just because I thought this thread would sink.

This thread is evil,It's the work of satan, posting in this thread is worshipping the devil:worship:
I'm telling you this in the name of The Father(Satan), The Son(Mikael Akerfeldt) and the Evil Spirit.

".....Heal! Heal in the name of the Lord!....", said the Bishop to his dog in a desparate effort to make him come over.:loco:

and for the southpark quote of the day:
"The bleeding statue of Mary is not a miracle,as decalred by the new Pope,Benedikt the 16th.
Mary isn't bleeding from the ass, she's bleeding out of her vagina. Chicks bleed out of their vaginas all the time."