Do you work out? If so, what is your routine?

[Lunar Still]

My metabolism is so high I don't think I could gain weight no matter how hard I try. I've always been ridiculously skinny.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

I don't need to work out; all of my dad's family is unnaturally muscular from birth. He's 60 and can lift me over his head. I guess it helps that I work on a farm, but I'm 5'11'' and weigh 235. (I'm not fat, though. it's mostly muscle)

are you kidding me? i'm about that height and maybe 170. I'd say there's twenty pounds or more of fat and muscle on me (away from being average). 60 pounds of muscle? even thirty is a LOT. unnaturally muscular at birth? what are you a fucking sayain?

 

[AsModEe]

KAME-HAAAAAAAAA-ME-HAAAAAAAAA

/world blows up

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

honestly:

Crix Madine says:
i think his Lean body mass would be between 215 and 220
Crix Madine says:
which means with out organs and bones its well over 100lbs of muscle
Crix Madine says:
Arnold in his prime was about 6' 240
Crix Madine says:
which is the same as 5'11" and 235

 

[deathstrike from hell]

surprised I havent saw any "i get excercise when i do your mom"s yet./

 

[AsModEe]

^^ has wolftribe posted in this thread yet?

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

if you want strength and massive muscle gain, DEAD LIFTS. trust me. fuck everyone else. fuck machines. DEAD LIFTS. one bar and some weights. also, LOTS of protein.
Hahahaha. How much do you deadlift?

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

Hahahaha. How much do you deadlift?

as I mentioned, I don't. Does it matter?

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/ErectorSpinae/BBDeadlift.html

do that with a side press

http://spidersport.com/side-press_en.php
except use the big bar
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/243/

you'll be set. you'll also have tremendous difficulty with the side press. use no weight first. even that was unbelievably hard for me. if you start with the small barbells though, it'll help.

 

[Bacchante]

I don't get to work out at gyms anymore...I wish I could, but I haven't had the free time this semester...and the school gym is awesome, so that makes me pretty fucking sad. I get super addicted to those elliptical machines

HSU is built into the redwoods, and my classes are all at the top of the hill, so I basically go hiking all damn day...sometimes up to 6 times a day...sometimes carrying tons of art supplies.

On the weekends, I walk on the beach or go wandering in the woods...or just walk all over town.

Swimming is probably my favorite excercise, so I'm going to start swimming at HSU's pool in the summer...you can all watch my hair turn various shades of neon green.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

as I mentioned, I don't. Does it matter?

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/ErectorSpinae/BBDeadlift.html

do that with a side press

http://spidersport.com/side-press_en.php
except use the big bar
http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/243/

you'll be set. you'll also have tremendous difficulty with the side press. use no weight first. even that was unbelievably hard for me. if you start with the small barbells though, it'll help.

I wasn't asking for advice and furthermore I definitely wasn't asking for horrible advice.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

I wasn't asking for advice and furthermore I definitely wasn't asking for horrible advice.

It was an extension of my point in case you misunderstood (which was almost guaranteed). And it's hardly horrible advice, unless you're interested in being a horribly thin slut whose only tone happens to be bone and organs... with a bad haircut.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

It was an extension of my point in case you misunderstood (which was almost guaranteed). And it's hardly horrible advice, unless you're interested in being a horribly thin slut whose only tone happens to be bone and organs... with a bad haircut.

Both your original point and extension are ridiculously laughable. As for the banter about my body; I don't even see the point of arguing.

 

[Shadowsaint]

Mondays and Wednesdays I usually do arms, chest, and shoulders. Fridays and maybe Saturdays I do legs. And I try to run every day if I get the time. Lately time has been a luxury though.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

Both your original point and extension are ridiculously laughable. As for the banter about my body; I don't even see the point of arguing.

You really can't just fault my advice with statements.

The squat and the deadlift are known and reputed by all serious weight trainers as THE workout exercises due to the all the muscles they work out. I avoided the squat namedrop because quite frankly, it is fucking HARD. Just getting the technique right is a joke! The dead lift will pump up your lower body and back; the press will work on the upper body. Besides those two main exercises it's always helpful to toss extra shit in. But that's all filler. You focus on those two upping the weight five pounds a week; two if it gets to be too much.

I know you cannot under any circumstances be arguing machines over dead lifts. Otherwise wow. Just wow.

If someone wants to take working out and strength training srsly, an olympic bar and weights are a very fruitful investment.

 

[Dead_Lioness]

I go to the gym 3 times a week. (sometimes 4, but only if I have time... lol)

I do: 10 minutes warm up on the bicycle

25 minutes on the stepper

30 minutes of various push-ups/ sit ups/ crenches/ and weights

30 min cardio on the eliptical machine.

so basically: 45-50 cardio + 30 work out.


Of course, one must change their plan every 6-8 weeks, so this plan will prolly change a bit soon.





I'm 5'8", 125-127 lbs

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

You really can't just fault my advice with statements.

The squat and the deadlift are known and reputed by all serious weight trainers as THE workout exercises due to the all the muscles they work out. I avoided the squat namedrop because quite frankly, it is fucking HARD. Just getting the technique right is a joke! The dead lift will pump up your lower body and back; the press will work on the upper body. Besides those two main exercises it's always helpful to toss extra shit in. But that's all filler. You focus on those two upping the weight five pounds a week; two if it gets to be too much.

I know you cannot under any circumstances be arguing machines over dead lifts. Otherwise wow. Just wow.

If someone wants to take working out and strength training srsly, an olympic bar and weights are a very fruitful investment.

Doing deadlifts and squats in the same weak is considered promoting injury. Thus, you should be alternating each by every other week. If you think you can build extreme mass by doing one exercise every other week you're an idiot. Also, while both are considered to hit most muscles in your body, the main concentration is quads with squats and lower back with deadlifts. You're hitting a concentration of a fourth of your leg and around a sixth of your back, and any idiot knows every good routine revolves around isolating one specific tissue per exercise. So go ahead and mainly do those two, but the result will be a horribly bad back at an early age if you don't alternate them by week and a disgustingly disproportionate body. You're advice has been faulted by my statements, so shut your mouth and stick to talking about topics you aren't ignorant of.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

Way to stray, big boy. Sometimes we read so much we forget about COMPREHENSION. I never mentioned a routine involving both squats and dead lifts. There are squat oriented routines and dead lift oriented routines. The amount of gain I've read about in squat oriented ones far outweighed those in dead lift and again I hearken back to the difficulty of the squat and moreso the routine. It is NOT for the weak.

As loathe as I am to spitting out wikipedia quotes; i'd rather not sift through my books/ebooks and get text. My original argument was a recommendation of a deadlift oriented routine. Let's see all the muscles involved:

Muscles involved

• Torso
  • Front
    • Abdomen
      • Rectus abdominis (under aponeurosis)
    • Obliques
      • Abdominal external oblique muscle
  • Back
    • Iliocostalis
    • Intertransversarii laterales lumborum
    • Latissimus dorsi
    • Levator scapulae
    • Longissimus
    • Quadratus lumborum
    • Rhomboideus major
    • Serratus posterior superior
    • Serratus posterior inferior
    • Splenius cervicis
    • Teres Major
    • Trapezius muscle
• Legs
  • Quadriceps
    • Rectus femoris
    • Vastus lateralis
    • Vastus intermedius
    • Vastus medialis
  • Hamstrings
    • Biceps femoris muscle, long head
    • Biceps femoris muscle, short head
    • Semitendinosus
    • Semimembranosus
• Hips
  • Gluteal muscles
    • Gluteus maximus
    • Gluteus minimus
  • Piriformis
  • Superior gemellus
• Forearms
  • Flexor digitorum profundus

WOW EVEN THE ARMS. As I said, SAID TO YOU, it's a lower body routine. But it extends far beyond it with perfect technique and various other techniques such as tension. These will keep injury far at bay. That previous site I mentioned about the side press is more than efficient at tackling the gains of it.

excerpt:
"[FONT=Times,serif]Like many people, I first started out with typical bodybuilding routines, as did many brainwashed zombies before me. You know, the back and biceps, chest and triceps sort of thing. However, I never liked training for "the pump" and trying to reach complete muscle failure; it just felt wrong. I was never interested in the size of my muscles, rather what they could do."

[/FONT]You focus on your strength, and it will begin to SHOW. Especially if you're downing protein like a t-rex. You'll be huge.

Injury is always a risk. A friend of mine just "hit the gym" and he was built like an animal, strong as fuck. Eventually it creeps up on him he's having back problems. He started to talking to a mutual friend whose very serious about weight lifting and advocates squats and dead lifts. Completely changes his form, but he's not feeling any strength gains. He gets into a squat routine; some noticeable gain, but nowadays he hoists me over his fucking head for stoned kicks.

Point: technique technique technique. Every exercise promotes hazard, some more than others, yes. But why master shitty isolated techniques when you can become a soviet bear using compound techniques.

And alternating routines aren't always necessary. It's GOOD to change it up, and usually for the best. It's also an option to just start from where you originally started and redo your routine with slight upgrades/modifications.

Also keep in mind the difference between a routine and an exercise. A routine consists of exercises. I'm sure you realize that. Usually I would assume so, but you seem to equate my recommendation of exercises to entire routines. That's a big fault on you, drug slut. I hearken back and quote MYSELF:

i'm telling you will, especially with your problems already. DO NOT TOUCH MACHINES.
working out certain areas is fine IN ADDITION to a full body work out. it shouldn't substitute. otherwise you'll have chinks everywhere in your armor. CHINKS.

fyi: a full body workout includes the two EXERCISES I mentioned.

Are we learning yet?

It works on uneducated fucks to simply claim victory, but not on SENIOR members. Maybe my prolonged use of colloquial grammar has become some sort of britches-enlarger?

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

You just don't understand the concept of isolation. A full body workout including two exercises is complete bollocks. You will gain little to no mass doing just deadlifts and a few machines. This fully body workout you keep building on is nothing but a very simple and poor MAX-Ot routine.

"You focus on your strength, and it will begin to SHOW. Especially if you're downing protein like a t-rex. You'll be huge."
That's a ridiculously dumb thing to say. Strength is easy to train, and is not parallel to mass building. You can be 150lbs and be able to press 3 plates on the incline and not have a cut on your body if you strength gain correctly. On the other hand, you may be ridiculously weak, but have a great body and lots of mass with a good mass building routine. Case and point: Jay Cutler can't curl much more than a ten on each side of the olympic bar and he has around 20inch arms.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

You're coming from the perspective of a twig. (no offense here)
In your case you'd need to build mass, then build strength, and through that it will show.
If you've got a naturally man shape (again, no offense), once you start strength training the weight falls off and muscle starts to show very nicely. Take Christian Bale for Batman Begins. He gorged like a motherfucker after doing Machinist, and during Batman worked it off. During production and filming they constantly had to refit his (close??? WTF) clothes as he got more shapely. (we see him at the beginning of movie pretty damn massive)

It's hardly a poor routine. It's bare, yes. But it's very effective according to my buddy who documents his improvement religiously, and all the text I've read (in addition).

And you didn't really argue my points. You made two statements and then commented on mass. Will, by the look of his current LOOK and ROUTINE isn't looking for mass. YOU look for mass.

Also, is mr. olympia there your goal? You know how wimpy those guys are? They're all fluff. Empty muscle. You even mentioned that point. Why bring him up?

As I mentioned, if you want mass, you want protein. I offered that as an option. For someone with a natural thin physique, they'll want LOTS.

 

[mReEtTaIlRsEkD]

You're coming from the perspective of a twig. (no offense here)
In your case you'd need to build mass, then build strength, and through that it will show.
If you've got a naturally man shape (again, no offense), once you start strength training the weight falls off and muscle starts to show very nicely. Take Christian Bale for Batman Begins. He gorged like a motherfucker after doing Machinist, and during Batman worked it off. During production and filming they constantly had to refit his close as he got more shapely. (we see him at the beginning of movie pretty damn massive)

It's hardly a poor routine. It's bare, yes. But it's very effective according to my buddy who documents his improvement religiously, and all the text I've read (in addition).

And you didn't really argue my points. You made two statements and then commented on mass. Will, by the look of his current LOOK and ROUTINE isn't looking for mass. YOU look for mass.

Also, is mr. olympia there your goal? You know how wimpy those guys are? They're all fluff. Empty muscle. You even mentioned that point. Why bring him up?

As I mentioned, if you want mass, you want protein. I offered that as an option. For someone with a natural thin physique, they'll want LOTS.

You further prove you have no idea what you're talking about.
You're chronology of building mass before strength is horseshit. As I said earlier, STRENGTH IS TRAINABLE, you can be 100lbs with no muscle mass and be able to lift more than Mr. Olympia.
As far as the attacks on me, I put on 20lbs of lean muscle in a month and a half (my best recorded time slot, not the limit of my gains). As far as my strength goes, I deadlift 120lbs over my bodyweight, squat 100lbs over my body weight, and barbell row my bodyweight.
To refute your next point, of course Will is looking for mass. There is a huge difference between muscle mass and fat mass. Any idiot can put on 50lbs of fat mass in a month. If he's serious he would diet while starting a high rep definition routine eventually transitioning to a mass building routine, and shed the fat while building defined lean muscle mass.
Finally, my reference to Cutler was to prove the difference between a strength training routine and a mass building routine, but obviously it's too far off your radar.
I'm done with this argument. Worship your fragile gym buddy all you want, but at least try not to give anymore ignorant advice to curious parties.