Emo kids

[Metal head87]

So what are emo kids you may ask? Why do we all call them losers, gay, morons etc? Why do metal fans want to kick their asses? These lists should give you insight on what emo fans are like.

(Urban Dictionary)"1) The fans of emo music (emocore, emotional hardcore), a music genre consisting of hardcore rock with angsty lyrics and a good dose of screaming. The singers/screamers of emo music are typically relatively young guys with feminine voices.

2) The style of clothing stereotypically worn by fans of emo music. This consists of, in general: tight band t-shirts or vintage 80's t-shirts, longer (messy) hair often died black, tight (usual girl's) pants, shoes by Vans or Converse, messenger bags, anything checkered (usually black-and-white or black-and-pink), studded belts, thick-framed glasses, neckties, scarves, etc.
(Note: girl emo kids often cut their hair short in the back and angled down in the front, less often died black)

Emo kids listen to many of the following bands: Thursday, Death Cab for Cutie, UnderOath, Fallout Boy, Taking Back Sunday, My Chemical Romance, As Cities Burn, etc."

(From Me) Emo kids tend to cut themselves with plastic knives. They usually posts billions of blogs on Myspace, Youtube and start their own blog sites to talk about how depressed they are. They often talk about how much they hate their parents and how bad their childhood was, yet they usually ask their parents for money to buy emo merchandise and live in the suburbs.

(Urban Dictionary) "I'm an emo kid, nonconforming as can be, you could be nonconforming too if you looked just like me. I have paint on my nails and makeup on my face. I'm almost emo enough to start shaving my legs. 'Cause I feel real deep when I'm dressing in drag, I call it freedom of expression, most just call me a fag! Because the dudes look like chicks, the chicks look like dykes, 'cause emo is one step below transvestite. Stop my breathing and slit my throat, I must be emo, I don't jump around when I go to shows . . ."

(Urban Dictionary) "Stupid queerbaits that contradict themselves. They call everybody outside their group conformists, yet they conform to conform which means they're complete fucking hypocrites. They also wonder why nobody likes them when they're constantly depressed and no fun to be around.

emo kids applied: "WTF, i only got $500 for allowance this week *cries*. My life is so unfair...I'll write a song about it *cut wrists*. I can't get a girlfriend because girls just don't understand me *masturbates*""

(My rant) Emo kids are annoying as hell. They usually reek to high heavens, all they do is talk about how bad their lives are, they all look the same (I swear, it's not only the way they dress, they actually all LOOK the same!), the music drives me nuts since the bands all sound EXACTLY the same and they all suck. (if I ever see another commercial for emo CDs, I'm going to throw the remote through my TV). They think they are so smart and elite, but they are just idiots who constantly say the same things every other emo kid says, and they cannot spell at all.
Help stop emo. When you see an emo kid, call him a fag and tell him to listen to real music. But remember..

I think that is enough for now.
(I know this is extremely offensive, but nobody here is emo os it's in good company)

 

[bloodpeth_1]

tis why i masturbate constantly

 

[sister ophelia]

LOL...Right, I get the idea...strangely enough though, the ex of a mate really looks like an emo "kid" but is heavily into death metal (Six Feet Under, Cannibal Corpse etc.). So apparently there's different types around. Anyway, never heard of ANY of those emo bands you listed... BTW, I read this book recently, entitled "I hate myself and want to die" by Tom Reynolds (an American), about the "52 most depressing songs of all time". Hilarious, even if you don't know half the songs he mentions...

 

[Frosties]

I personally really like Funeral For A Friend and Bullet For My Valentine, and My Chemical Romance does have it's moments. All in all I think it's a genre that is far from bad, and has it's own charms if not taken too far.

 

[Metal head87]

There are musical genres that I hate, but I don't really care about them. What I hate about emo is that it's all over the place. TV, radio, even so called metal media outlets. They even open up for real metal bands when no metalhead likes them!! You cannot escape it no matter how hard you try to.

I hate the fact that Avenged Shitenfold and As I Lay Crying call themselves true and traditional metal bands. It's an embarassment to real metal bands and metalheads. You end up getting a bunch of emo kids with a bunch of lines on their arms (not scars because they use plastic knives for their cutting) in Iron Maiden shirts saying how big of a metalhead they are when they have never even heard 1 Iron Maiden song.

I also hate the fact that people think that emo is metal. People think that some depressed kid who cuts himself is a metalhead, which by their logic means that all metalheads cut themselves, are depressed, outcasts and eventually shoot up their whole school. That is far from true and it pisses me off that there is such a stigma attached to being a metal fan.
Many metal bands focus on image and stuff like that, but metal music itself is about the music, not the image. Emo is all about the image because that is all those bands have. The only emo band that I would say has good musicianship is Avenged Sevenfold, but their music is terrible. You're not going to see someone who is deep into the emo genre not looking like some typical emo kid. Look at bands like Mercyful Fate/King Diamond, Dimmu Borgir, Immortal, Mayhem, Manowar, Judas Priest, Enslaved, Amon Amarth etc. They all have a certain image whether it's the whole Satanic/corpsepaint thing or the "we're so metal, we are going to kick your ass" or the "we're Vikings and we're going to kick your ass" images. But they have the music and musicianship to back it up. You don't see those fans going around in corpsepaint or loincloths because the image is there, but we listen to the bands for the music. Yet those stupid Slipknot Maggots (it is way too easy to make fun of that Maggot name) go around in those ridiculous masks because all Sipnuts has is their ridicuous and retarded image.

Those damn emo bands even have shirts and tours called the "Shoot Up Your School Tour" and "Kill The Popular Kids Tour" and stuff like that! WHat kind of crap is that? That reflects on metalheads since most people call emo kids metalheads. That makes us look bad, that refelcts on our subculture. The emo bands and the goth bands are the ones telling their fans to do that because the kids in their schools don't want anything to do with them. Yet when the news comes on, it says "metal music drives a student to murder his classmates before taking his own life" or "metal music drives fan to plan out a plot to murder his fellow classmates". No metal band would ever tell their fans to commit such an atrocity, yet they get blamed. Because some stupid kid listens to Marilin Manson or AFI, a band like Cannibal Corpse gets half the blame.
Maybe it's not like that in other countries, but that's how a lot of it is in the US. That's why I hate those emo and goth kids.

Same goes for those goth kids. I hate them too.

 

[sister ophelia]

Don't waste your energy on hating emo kids for their musical taste. Instead, take pleasure in the fact that YOU'VE "found the light" and fulfilment of all your musical needs in METAL. ;-) Well, I do...
And honestly, since when do metal fans care about other people's opinions regarding music, eh?
I neither watch TV nor listen to the radio so have no idea as to how popular emo is in Germany but the band names that Frosties mentioned in his post do sound familiar.
Oh, and the *one* good thing about Slipknot: their name actually helped me to remember the Hebrew word for "to buy" (= liknot)...

 

[paradoxile]

yeah wasting your time on hating emo and emo kids is really gay
the real challange in life is making an emo kid normal...they are weak kids after all...who the hell wants to be depressed all the time?

oh and once you turn an emo girl normal...you got yourself a pretty fine looking girlfriend(unless she was ugly to begin with)

 

[Metal head87]

And honestly, since when do metal fans care about other people's opinions regarding music, eh?
Oh, and the *one* good thing about Slipknot: their name actually helped me to remember the Hebrew word for "to buy" (= liknot)...

It's not about what people think of the genre of of the fans as far as if they like it or not. I don't care if people don't like metal. But when people think that it's only for depressed outcasts or knuckle dragging idiots, that offends me and the entire metal genre. The various sub-genres of metal have spawned some of the most complex, intricate and technical music I have ever heard, and I listen to classical, jazz and opera (folk music too, but pure folk is usually pretty simple. Classical composers who incorporate folk music in their compositions, such as Grieg, is far more complicated, but that's classical music already). Heavy metal is also not about being depressed. It's about enjoying the music. I may not care about what people think of me in a certain sense, but I sure as hell don't want people to think that I'm a depressed idiot.

Shitknot should also remind you of the word jewelry (tachshit).


Paradoxile, except for that masturbation kills emo pic, I've never seen a cute emo girl before. They're usually nasty as hell and kind of look more masculine than the guys do.

 

[Metal head87]

By the way, a lot of this is just kidding around. My last two posts were serious, but this topic was originally meant to be kind of like a joke, so....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK2HoNKxmPA (this is kind of offensive though so beware)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYz_WEKjUeI&NR (I'm assuming the wrist cutting part is fake)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Habzx0JeIdg

 

[Frosties]

@ Metalhead87 - I don't agree with you at all. I actually do classify them as metal, since bands like Funeral For A Friend and Bullet For My Valentine (along with Avenged, who you've already mentioned) are actuall heavier than the traditional heavy metal bands. So why would Dio, Priest and Maiden be metal, when bands who take their ideas further are not.
Also, they CAN play their instruments. For example, Almost every Bullet For My Valentine has great solos and excellant rhythm.

I guess, just like in every genre, there's some good, some bad, some sucky and some that doesn't even have anything to do with it but is for some reason or other labeled in such a way.

 

[sister ophelia]

Ilan is right: the real challenge is to convert the emo...Just realised that Slayer's October tour is called "The Unholy Alliance - Preaching to the Perverted". Does this sound like they might be taking an emo band as opening act with them? ;-)

Anyway, what I was gonna say, through emo bands, the emo kid might actually discover "the real thing", be it at a gig or on compilation cds/dvds/the internet etc.... Hope dies last!

The last words: there so many stereotypes around, concerning metal fans and their live styles etc. (you know them all, I don't need to list them...), certainly some people "not in the know" thinking of me as being depressed is a cliché I can live with...

 

[Metal head87]

I don't consider Dio as metal. I consider him as hard rock.
The only Priest albums I consider as metal are the 70's albums, because of how they are structured, and the 90's onward because they had a metal structure besides for being really heavy. Especially Painkiller, that borderlined speed metal at times. I don't consider their 80's work as metal. It's good, but it's kind of poppish hard rock.
I don't think any of those emo bands are as heavy as, or heavier than, Maiden. Besides that Maiden's music is far more complex and intricate, I think that the music itself is actually heavier. It may not be as fast or modern sounding, like there isn't really too much double bass or any screaming, but the music is every bit as heavy.
Besides, I don't consider heaviness as what makes a band heavy metal or hard rock or whatever other sub-genre there is. I think it's all about the style and structure. For instance, a band like Winds. Their music is far from heavy. Classical music with some guitar riffs even. But I would still call them a metal band since their music is structured in a metal fashion, although I would also call them classical in a certain sense. Then you have a band like Nitro from the 80s for instance. Super fast shredding riffs and solos, crazy drums and very King Diamond/Rob Halford-ish vocals that break glass, yet I would still call them hard rock because that is how their songs were written.
A band like Bullet For My Valentine (I cannot believe Maiden is letting them open for their US tour), despite plageurizing every In Flames riff and solo, is still an emo band since they play emo songs that were written for emo kids. All of their songs could easily be part of an AFI or Hawthorn Hights album.

If you like those bands, that's your personal taste and it's not you I'm bashing. It's those annoying emo kids that I hate for the reasons I gave earlier.

Sister Ophelia, you're in Germany though. The whole music scene there is different than in the US, so they probably don't have the same stigma attached to being a metalhead as we do here. Personally, I don't want people thinking I'm depressed. I've had to defend myself from accusations like that from people who could who could have really used that to hurt me (it's a long story I don't share, but that's part of the reason I wouldn't even piss on my dad if he was on fire), I'm certainly not going to let anyone say I'm depressed now. I guess it's more in a sense of my pride and ego, but still.
I never said Slayer takes emo bands out on tour though. I hate Lam Of God, but I wouldn't call them emo.
By the way, Slayer's new album is actually not bad. I got the promo for it. Except for Tom's vocals being kind of crappy and Kerry still can't solo, it's a good album.

But again, I really started this thread for some laughs. I didn't think anyone would take it so seriously.

 

[paradoxile]

I know a great band to convert emo kids to normal people...Katatonia
Swedish Doom metal band turned to Deprssion Rock band...they sing about depression and lost loves and suicide but they aren't emo(even though they were compared with my chemical romance for some reason)

 

[Metal head87]

Wait, who compared Katatonia with My Chemical Romance?!?! I guess I'm going to have to "persuade" them NYC style to appologize for that. Time to dust off my steel pipe and buy a can of lighter fluid, I gots me some persuadin to do.

Everybody always says Sentenced is depressive, but I don't think they are. I listen to them all the time, and they don't sound depressive at all.
Angel Blake might also be considered depressive at times.
Also Grey Skies Fallen.

 

[Frosties]

If you like those bands, that's your personal taste and it's not you I'm bashing. It's those annoying emo kids that I hate for the reasons I gave earlier.

Hehe, I know that. I jus tthink it's a shame you and everyone else is missing out on it 'cause I consider it quality music. When I first got it, I couldn't stop listening to Casually Dressed & Deep In Conversation by Funeral For A Friend. I still think it's an amazing album.

 

[sister ophelia]

By the way, Slayer's new album is actually not bad. I got the promo for it. Except for Tom's vocals being kind of crappy and Kerry still can't solo, it's a good album.

The only new Slayer song I've heard so far is "Cult". A great song, I like it a lot and am really looking forward to their tour. I happen to like Tom's vocals actually, and Kerry's "solos" are simply what makes a Slayer song a Slayer song. I also think a Slayer gig is one of the most intense moments in metal one can experience.
Support bands over here will be Children of Bodom, In Flames, Lamb of God and a forth one (their name escapes me right now...). But who cares about the support acts when Slayer will be headlining? :Smug:
Did I mention that I have a work colleague who's second name is Araya? Though she's from Eritrea...I played "Reign in Blood" to her recently but sadly she wasn't impressed...

 

[Metal head87]

I've seen Slayer a couple of times before. They put on a great show. Not my favorite show, that would be King Diamond (I saw him 3 times, I almost had an orgasm when he played Come To The Sabbath and Evil the last 2 times I saw him on that same tour), but they still kick ass.
I've seen COB open for Dimmu Borgir before. They're also a great live band, although I like Dimmu a lot more.
I've seen Lamb Of God when I was bored and decided to go to the Headgivers Ball tour, I mean Headbangers Ball tour, like 2 and a half years ago. I hated them. I thought they sucked and I wanted to kick that loudmouthed singer's ass so badly. All he did was tell everyone what to do like a real dickhead. That whole tour sucked. I don't like Killswtich Engaged's (they co-headlined) music, but their guitar player is funny as hell so it wasn't a total loss.
In Flames put on an amazing live show. I saw them a couple of times. In Flames, Dark Tranquillity and Hypocrisy are probably my favorite live shows from the melo-death bands. Soilwork was great, but not quite as fun (although their older material is some of the best melo-death ever). Arch Enemy kicks ass, but I hate Angela's vocals and she curses like a sailor in between songs which kind of makes me think of some angsty nu-metal band member.
Opeth put on an amazing show though. If they are considered as melo-death, then they are also one of my favorite live bands of that genre. People call them boring, but I enjoy it a lot. It's not about seeing people with long hair jumping around and banging their heads, it's about seeing good musicians with dignity and integrity playing their music. It sort of reminds me of Death's DVDs and bootlegs.

Personally, I think Slayer should just stop having solos, period. I like Jeff's guitar work a little, but Kerry's work is just crappy. I hate it that he gets so much credit as a guitar player. How could anyone put him over Hank Shermann?!
Dimension Zero for instance has hardly any solos, but they still sound excellent. Slayer should just do the same.
I love Tom's vocals in old Slayer, but I just cannot stand the way he sounds now, although he is definitely much better than a lot of the so called vocalists now.
If you liked Cult, you should love the album. It is my least favorite song on the album. The music is right out of Reign In Blood. I like Seasons In The Abyss, Hell Awaits and Show No Mercy far better, but this album is really good.

 

[Metal head87]

Hehe, I know that. I jus tthink it's a shame you and everyone else is missing out on it 'cause I consider it quality music. When I first got it, I couldn't stop listening to Casually Dressed & Deep In Conversation by Funeral For A Friend. I still think it's an amazing album.

I've heard some of their songs. No offense if you like them, but they are not my taste at all. I'm sure there are plenty of bands I love that you hate too, so I hope you don't feel offended by anything I've said here.

 

[Metal head87]

Holy shit http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=56077
Stryper is going to get killed by the Slayer fans. If I was at a show to see Slayer and Stryper was opening, I probably cannot even legally say what I would do to them.

 

[Frosties]

I've heard some of their songs. No offense if you like them, but they are not my taste at all. I'm sure there are plenty of bands I love that you hate too, so I hope you don't feel offended by anything I've said here.

Definately not. In fact, I found it funny.

I don't think anyone can offend me over the internet unless they try really really hard.