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JonWormwood

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So I just realized I like my top 10 favorite bands are all from Helsinki Finland. Is the music/metal scene that good over there?
 
The Finnish scene is very stagnant. They all copy each other. I can't even begin to count how many deathrash bands have suddenly popped out ever since Strapping Young Lad became widely trendy here. If that wasn't enough, they ALL (and I mean ALL) sound exactly the same! That irks me more than anything. They don't even try to do something new.

Another such case is doom metal, ever since Swallow the Sun and Reverend Bizarre reached the Top 40 lists (I think they even reached Top 10). There's suddenly bazillion carbon copies springing out that don't even try to sound different.
 
Well I kinda like the finnish "scene"... I know a lot of people who play in really good bands but just don't have a label. Recently bands I know have gotten signed which is cool. One great rising up band called "Dead Shape Figure"(death/thrashy metal) for example. Can't remember the label they're on but the label had Mayhem for example... They went on tour with Chimaira for a month or so! http://www.myspace.com/deadshapefigure

About the doom metal thing I'm not that sure about(since I don't listen to doom that much), but a band called "Saattue" makes pretty rad doom IMO. They just released their debut album through spinefarm records. http://www.myspace.com/saattue

Not sure if people like punkish/crust grind here but I have to recommend "Feastem". Insanely tight band with very good songs. They made a mini album with me on november and they're trying to get it released. http://www.myspace.com/feastem

There's this death'n'roll band called "Ghoul Patrol" that's really fucking good. They did the demo with me too. http://www.myspace.com/ghoulpatrol666

I don't any of these bands are carbon copies of either Swallow the sun(doom), Strapping Young Lad(deaththrash), Rotten Sound(grind)

I'd have a dozen bands more I could point out in the finnish metal "SKENE", but since it's so stagnant, I won't :p

edit: forgot a band hehe
 
...and remember the amount of Children of Bodom copies that suddenly appeared when COB became big in Finland. About 90% of the teenage metal scene wore eyeliner and black nailpolish like Alexi Laiho :lol:
 
Thank god the deathrash mania didn't last long. Deathchain was the only band I didn't mind calling themselves deathrash, their first album was amazing shit. Most of the other bastard children of the deathrash wave were unimaginative death metal or would-be-thrash :/ And yeah, Dead shape figure is cool, too, though I've only heard their demo stuff and loved it.
 
...and remember the amount of Children of Bodom copies that suddenly appeared when COB became big in Finland. About 90% of the teenage metal scene wore eyeliner and black nailpolish like Alexi Laiho :lol:

...and Children of Bodom started because there was this really huge speedmetal scene in Finland in circa 1989. The brightest star of that wave by far was Stone. No Anaesthesia is, in my opinion, still the best thrash/speedmetal album in the world. Music wise. The vocals sucked ass, and a lot. But the lead guitarist of Stone, Roope Latvala, plays the guitar on Children of Bodom nowadays, drummer is in Amorphis (edit: not actually sure about this one, but he did play in it), the bass player in Suburban Tribe (the vocalist of SUT, Ville Tuomi, did some vocals on the best Amorphis album, Elegy) and is a studioengineer at MD Studios... and the other guitarist plays humppa with his dad, Kari Tapio. Edit: quote from wikipedia: "Perhaps the most notable of these bands is Children of Bodom, whose lead guitarist Alexi Laiho credits former Stone member and current Sinergy and Children of Bodom bandmate Roope Latvala as a major influence on his playing."

But the indie metal scene in Finland is quite lively and metal is quite mainstream here also. If you look at the Top 40 list, it has ~25% metal/hardrock artists. But the fact that the livegigs don't attract that many people anymore. The "older guys" told that the things totally changed somewhere between 1997-2004, depending on who you ask.

Also a lot of recordstores are dying ATM, I know atleast 8 stores quite well known independent recordstores that have quit in the past 3 years and even like one of the largest chains, Free Record Shop, died and all the stores turned GameStops. I blame the fact that people got highspeed internet connections for both, being totally serious here.

The fact that why the industry is pretty much dying is because the hiphop/rave fans don't really buy the CDs (not kidding), they download them from the internet. Rock/Heavymetal fans and the +40 parents who listen to "iskelmä" are pretty much the only people who buy the CDs regularly.

In addition to that already mentioned Dead Shape Figure (they actually asked me to do their FOH for the Chimaira tour, but that was a no-go, because a: they didn't have a budget for it b: no space in the nightliners), if you want to check some of the biggest indiebands from Finland, half of these are on the same record label, Sakara Records:

http://myspace.com/stam1na (speedmetal)
http://myspace.com/mokomamusic (thrashmetal)
http://www.myspace.com/diablometal (melodeath)
http://www.myspace.com/nicoleband (deathmetal)
http://www.myspace.com/rytmihairio (surmacore)
http://www.myspace.com/rottensound (grindcore)
 
Honestly, you don't know how good you guys have got it there if Children of Bodom and especially SYL have gotten "trendy" - here in America, it's nothing but awful awful hard/metalcore
 
The Finnish scene is very stagnant. They all copy each other. I can't even begin to count how many deathrash bands have suddenly popped out ever since Strapping Young Lad became widely trendy here. If that wasn't enough, they ALL (and I mean ALL) sound exactly the same! That irks me more than anything. They don't even try to do something new.

Another such case is doom metal, ever since Swallow the Sun and Reverend Bizarre reached the Top 40 lists (I think they even reached Top 10). There's suddenly bazillion carbon copies springing out that don't even try to sound different.

I guess we have the same fucking problem then, all the shit out of America is really stagnant and boring as hell now. It's fucking stupid and I'm getting tired of it.

Honestly, you don't know how good you guys have got it there if Children of Bodom and especially SYL have gotten "trendy" - here in America, it's nothing but awful awful hard/metalcore

Word.

...you mean awful rnb/hiphop shit?

That too.
 
Alot of my favorite music comes from Finland. I dunno what's in the water up there, but the Finns are second to none when in comes to metal. Amazing place to be too. Helsinki and Turku have a captivating vibe (whatever the hell that means..) and not to mention the best sounding language in the world :p
 
About the COB copy-bands.... there's always going to be bands that try to sound like their favourite bands... But yeah I agree, there was an awful lot of them a few years ago. STILL Finland has a lot of good smaller/demo/small label bands that are worth checking out. I'd never want us(finnish dewwwds) to have such a shitty demoscene/smallbandscene that for example(no offence!!!) France has....

...that being said, Sweden has the best bands in the whole fucking globe IMO.

"Also a lot of recordstores are dying ATM, I know atleast 8 stores quite well known independent recordstores that have quit in the past 3 years and even like one of the largest chains, Free Record Shop, died and all the stores turned GameStops. I blame the fact that people got highspeed internet connections for both, being totally serious here." -ahjteam

I think it's a good thing that free record shop died. Music listening is going in the direction that only the people that REALLY listen to music(buy records, go to gigs or just be involved in a way or two) buy the music. It's pretty much impossible to do Michael Jackson -big sales anymore, cause the casual listeners won't just justify paying 15e for a CD. They'd rather spend it on a "Mäyräkoira"(12-pack of beer in finland)...

ahj did you notice that there is a new record shop in Helsinki btw? Levykauppa äx. Keltainen Jäänsärkijä is a pretty big store nowadays too since they moved to the new space. I think it's going more to the direction of people actually buy their music again. Of course there will be the only-download people but that's inevitable.

My conclusion about the whole Finnish "SKENE" is that it's pretty damn good. don't whine about it :p
 
You know guys, I'm going to study abroad soon (gotta do a lot of paperwork and shit) and I'm seriously thinking about doing some environmental engineering at the University of Helsinki.