From Fear to Love: UNaverage Opeth Review

TheFourthHorseman said:
You can't define a concept as a theme. They're two different things.

Orchid does not have a storyline. Orchid is not a concept album, by Mikael's definition.

Still, Orchid does seem to follow a progression of some sort (from life into death and beyond). So by a storyline/concept, are you saying that a further level of detail is necessary, than what Orchid has?
 
if you had one functioning brain cell, you wouldn't argue over the concept-status of an album or albums.

The thing I'm really sorry for is that morons like you are trying to be funny and always failing. It's very sad, actually.
 
Wow, okay....

I enjoy how there are so many stupid Opeth listeners on this site.
Nevertheless, there were some constructive (intelligent) people to respond.

I made the text dark red on top of black, which is how the site is set up for me. not only do i consider it hot shit, but i also think if you don't like it, then dont read it. If you indeed had to highlight the words to read them, then you have a different browser, or older computer than me and hey, i cant satisfy everyone without abandoning my style (and id rather favor my style). secondly, dont complain that you HAD to highlight it. it was still a choice, not to mention highlighting things is cool IMO.

Orchid:
I was under the impression that this record was the only album to not have a definite story to back up the movements, if thats not true (and listening to the record certainly proves it) then the simple fact remians that i was not aware of it when i bought it. this in turn made me unsure (and thus uncomfortable) about how it would sound, not that it didnt make me like it any less.

MAYH:
In response the question asker, yes i did warm up to this one. the songs may be shorter but that, i believe, was not a definite intention of the band. the shortened songs also hold my impatient friends as well, so i put this one in often :D April Ethereal has some of the coolest parts to it.

One of Opeth's influences happens to be the illustrious Camel. Why? well because of their amazing progression writing. Often, without a doubt Opeth uses similar soudnds as Camel especially on Morningrise. In no way is Camel bad anyway. plus trying to compare boy bands is unhealthy for the brain. they dont even really play or write music. if there's anything in it, then it's bad bad poetry. learn to respect music, loser.

the UNaverage part of this review was the fact that i wasnt the metal freak that tends to listen to Opeth. I, and my views come from a different sect (teehee) of people. thats all.

Amazon has no original copies of the cd. they have a newer digitally enhanced version. im not saying i wouldnt get that, but im wondering how much difference the two have not only as far as quality and presentation go. would i be buying the same cd and cover art etc. but just a cleaner, more age protected copy?

Thanks again, Peace
 
Adventageous said:
One of Opeth's influences happens to be the illustrious Camel. Why? well because of their amazing progression writing. Often, without a doubt Opeth uses similar soudnds as Camel especially on Morningrise. In no way is Camel bad anyway. plus trying to compare boy bands is unhealthy for the brain. they dont even really play or write music. if there's anything in it, then it's bad bad poetry. learn to respect music, loser.

You know nothing of Opeth's influences. You know nothing of Camel. You have no stature to make any comparison of anything related to either band, n00b. There is no Camel "sound" in Morningrise, the only relation being that they both share the progressive idiom.

I saw Camel on their farewell tour twice, and once on their tour before that. I have been a die hard fan for a long time. Dont make assumptions about what music i respect or like. Just try not to be so defensive when you make an outlandish assumption about a bands sound comparing to a band who they sound nothing like. Opeth can be influenced heavily by camel, and sound NOTHING like them. "loser".
 
heya
i got my still life on ebay...
it was sealed. and i believe it was also new.
cape cod, eh?
i'm on the north shore...
welcome to the wonderful world of opeth.
trat
 
Adventageous said:
the UNaverage part of this review was the fact that i wasnt the metal freak that tends to listen to Opeth. I, and my views come from a different sect (teehee) of people. thats all.
Opeth are, contrary to popular belief, extremely accessible. I think the non-metal fanbase is almost as large as the metal-fanbase after the release of Damnation.

[KOTNO said:
Narrot]>> that's just because you are morningrise's bitch ;)
And don't you forget it.
 
Adventageous said:
the UNaverage part of this review was the fact that i wasnt the metal freak that tends to listen to Opeth. I, and my views come from a different sect (teehee) of people. thats all.

ok mans thanks for the interesting story, glad your into opeth, welcome to the board and dont worry new members get flamed for everything, but dude, i have to say you're slighty naive, if you think that most people into opeth came from a metal bakcground, think again, the fact your declaring yourself the UNaverage special one who is a different kind of opeth fan, well, from accounts ive heard and my own ALOT of the fans have gotten into metal THROUGH opeth not the other way around, also, stop talking about your computer that makes me think "prog nerd asshole" not that you are just sounds like it

anyway
welcome
 
you idiots! you think the post would have gotten much more attention, if the title was "average review"? :p

rarely does a band influence anothers without some sort of familliar sound comnng out of it. i know Camel well too. i know the two bands are different and musically divergent from each other, but depending on how deeply you listen to the music, you can hear certain similarities. i dont see why comparing the two defaces either band. both are equally as talented. no defense here, just explaining the reasoning behind the comparison.

I had the pleasure of talking to Rose Immortal recently. Basically it doesnt really matter what listeners listen to Opeth for, we all get the same feeling out of it. now i wont bother going into the emotional reprecussions of the sorrow the band seems to wreak or extreme beauty with which the lyrics happen to mesh with the music, because only a handful of you would probably want to hear it. but yeah, we all listen to Opeth for those reasons, whether you like it or not.

and btw, i am very much of a nerd :D, but i am not an asshole...maybe a bit naive at times, but commonly only to assholes am i considered one.
 
Some people don't seem to be understand that, though concept and theme are words almost identical in meaning, a concept album is an album that tells a story, where there is a connection between the songs more profound than that of an album with a theme. Most people would argue that that line is very undefined, and it's easy to find an album with a theme to be a concept album. Most people would argue that all albums have themes. You can find connections between songs on an album and call it a theme. It's possible for an album to have a bunch of totally different songs and still have a theme. Split The Difference by Gomez, anyone? A bunch of totally different songs, but that's the theme. In my opinion, the writer gets to decide whether or not his album is a concept. Not the listener.

There's a difference between what inspires you and what influences you. Let's say that Iron Maiden inspires me to write music. Though it does inspire me, my music sounds nothing like it. Though my inspiration just inspires me to write, it can inspire me to write music like it. From there, it would become not only my inspiration, but my influence, because my music sounds somewhat like it or takes something from it.

There's an infinite number of music-related arguments you can start because some people don't understand the difference between those two words.
 
KennonKun said:
There's a difference between what inspires you and what influences you. Let's say that Iron Maiden inspires me to write music. Though it does inspire me, my music sounds nothing like it. Though my inspiration just inspires me to write, it can inspire me to write music like it. From there, it would become not only my inspiration, but my influence, because my music sounds somewhat like it or takes something from it.

There's an infinite number of music-related arguments you can start because some people don't understand the difference between those two words.

I already pointed that out anyway, however he said when he "HEARD" Opeth, it "SOUNDED" like camel mixed with something else. So right there is a hole in your theory of what he was saying.