GMD Poll: Top Ten Albums of 2000

[HamburgerBoy]

Well no, but that is what they call all those bands that copy Incantation/Immolation after the Portal craze isn't it?

That's really all I'm saying.

So are The Chasm atmospheric death metal?

According to some people on RYM apparently. To me not really in the sense that their riffing blends death and black metal, rather than taking specifically from what bands like Immolation did. Based on what I've heard/can remember, at least. But sure, they can be, atmosphere apparently a large part of their appeal anyways.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

But Portal isnt one of those Immolation or Incanation clones, you deaf bastards. Are you guys okay?

The Chasm are far more "atmospheric" than Immolation.

 

[Krow]

Tbh I used to love Portal, havent listened to them much recently, but basically because they took that murky swirling death metal of Incantation to a higher level.

 

[-CC-]

I guess I should step in and clarify my initial comments. When I was relistening to Close to a World Below I kept thinking to myself that this must be where Portal got their sound from. I don't know if that's actually the case, nor do I really listen much to Portal to be making such statements I suppose.

Anyway, I googled a portal song, and I can't help but feel that it does sound similar (at least the start of each song). You guys be the judge:

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Do you disagree that Immolation, post-debut (which is a generic album that sounds nothing like their later output) had a higher emphasis on atmospheric, less-chuggy writing than most/all of their contemporaries?

"Atmospheric black metal" is a psuedo-genre, since all black metal creates atmosphere. It an empty descriptor. Atmospheric death metal is even less of a legitimate categorization. The fact that I've never even heard anyone but you refer to Portal, Immolation, or Ulcerate as "atmospheric death metal" while you consider these to be the cornerstones of the genre, shows just how illegitimate it is (after doing some googling, I found one user-created "Atmospheric Death Metal" list, but it's not a descriptor for the bands on Metal Archives and it isn't even a searchable genre on RYM). And no, Dawn of Possession has just as much atmosphere as their other albums. The music just isn't as good.

 

[Krow]

It's really just a new tag that's been appearing on these bands, I've seen it too. Not sure why you guys are making it into such a big deal.

Immolation isn't one just like Suffocation isn't slam death metal though.

Bands I've seen with the tag

Portal
Grave Upheaval
Antediluvian
Abyssal
Irkallian Oracle
Impetuous Ritual
Mitochodrion
Aevangelist


It's all bands playing murky nydm worship and that's what people have started calling it. It's just a name for a sub sub genre and it really hasn't even stuck much yet.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

while i agree with some of that. I would say "murky nydm worship" is absolutely incorrect. Just because you're an Incantation clone band(more than a few of those listed bands are far from being btw), which im guessing is what you're again trying to say, does not make them "atmospheric death metal". But yes i agree that Abyssal, Mitochondrion, Portal are worthy of that label... but again, they are NOT Incantation clone bands. A lot of them instrumentally sound closer to Ulcerate than they do to Incantation. So are we going to call Ulcerate an Incatation clone too? Them and most of those other bands sounds almost nothing like "NYDM".

DISMA(true murky NYDM sound) IS ATMOSPHERIC DEATH METALZ TOO

 

[Krow]

For what it's worth I don't think these bands are super "atmospheric" or whatever, it's just what people are calling the bands is literally the only thing I'm saying. It's obviously nothing like atmospheric black metal which is a weird blanket term too.

I do think all the bands I listed show clear Incantation and Immolation influence (surely more so than other old school bands)

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

influence i agree, clone/worship i do not.

Dead Congregation for example is a legit Incantation clone band, never have i heard anyone refer to them as atmospheric death metal.

 

[Krow]

influence i agree, clone/worship i do not.
.

TBH I mean influence and am just misspeaking. I like the bands I posted.

I can't remember Ulcerate. Need to revisit.

 

[Talos of Atmora]

Well, at least this conversation isn't happening between the results.

 

[Krow]

I'll try to restart it in the middle of them.

 

[Sirjack]

how long have l got to put my list up, i'm halfway there

 

[Anom@nder Rake]

1. The Chasm - Procession to the Infraworld
2. Mortuary Drape - Tolling 13 Knell
3. Primordial - Spirit the Earth Aflame
4. The Lord Weird Slough Feg - Down Among the Deadman
5. Destroyer 666 - Phoenix Rising
6. Hypnosia - Extreme Hatred
7. Mortem - Decomposed By Possession
8. Nifelheim - Servants of Darkness
9. Sorhim - Apokalypsens Angel
10. Negura Bunget - Maiastru Sfetnic

HM:
Antaeus
Graveland
Enslaved
Deceased
Iron Maiden
Megiddo
Nile
Sabbat
The Crown

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

how long have l got to put my list up, i'm halfway there

please submit your lists by 11pm UTC on OCTOBER 1st.

 

[Sirjack]

cheers ears
can l just add that my capitals button is broken

1 cephalic carnage - exploiting dysfunction
2 nasum - human 2.0
3 discordance axis - the inalienable dreamless
4 racer x - technical difficulties
5 dying fetus - destroy the opposition
6 cryptopsy - ...and then you'll beg
7 condition red - condition red
8 exhumed - slaughtercult
9 nile - black seeds of vengeance
10 macabre - dahmer

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

9 suffocation - human waste

hmmmmm.

 

[RadicalThrasher]

10 macabre - dahmer

 

[Sirjack]

ah another reminder not to post when smashed

 

[Sirjack]

l had it higher and then other stuff happened
yeah man this album is a masterclass in metal and poppy dangerous fun - genius lines here and there and just general kickassness with the riffs
plus some bonkers stuff