Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Is David Stratton the same guy who said that "Dead End" was good? If so, he obviously doesn't know shit.
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I didn't mind Dead End. It wasn't awesome, but it was entertaining second rate horror, rather than shit second rate horror, like Dead Scared *shudder*.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
The exposition at the end of that film was worse than anything the writers of "Scream" could concoct. Did they really think the audience was that dumb?Blitzkrieg said:
Rob, about the dubbing. Fact is that most Italian horror films were filmed with 2 different languages being spoken on set (nearly all Italian horror films had American or English lead actors to secure the film international distribution), so you'd have your main couple of actors speaking English and the rest speaking Italian, and on some of those films they didn't even record sound on set and recorded 100% of the sound in post production so it's all dubbed anyway.
The reason they are all released more widely in English rather than Italian even though they are Italian films is that they were being made mainly for overseas distribution. The Italians were really into "genre film making" at that time. If American westerns were a big success like they were in the 60s, Italy would churn out a bunch of spaghetti westerns cheaper & faster, and always more violent (because Europeans had alot more freedom in their film making, alot less conservative than the Americans) and sell them overseas, and whadya know - you've suddenly got all these Italian westerns like Fistful of Dollars, The Good The Bad & The Ugly etc making HEAPS in America. Hitchcock's thrillers were huge in America, so then Italy made similar styled films (their "giallo" films) but loaded in far more sex & violence. Then "Dawn of the Dead" becomes a huge hit, next thing there are a hundred Italian zombie films on the market, again with nastier violence and more sleaze than Dawn Of The Dead and the US films. So obviously the horror fanatics in America can't wait to go see these Italian zombie films which take it a step further.
Generally you'll find the videos will ALWAYS be in English no matter what country the movie was released in, unless it was Italy itself which'd be in Italian, or Germany also usually had everything dubbed into German. Every other country would be in English & subtitled usually. With the new DVD releases, alot of them are good enough to provide both Italian with English subtitles or English audio to choose from. Some only have the English audio though, and also for most of the films the English soundtrack is the main & original one anyway as the film was made for the English market in the first place. You just happen to have 50 Italian actors in the film speaking their own language on set.
It depends on the film which I prefer. Generally the pre-1975 films are better in Italian (except always have an English speaking lead character somewhere badly dubbed into Italian!), but the ones after that often only even have English soundtracks. I know that all the films Argento did between 1977-1985 (his most popular era) had English soundtracks even though some actors are obviously speaking Italian, but the films were originally made with English soundtracks. For that reason I prefer to watch "Deep Red" (1975) in Italian because the English dub is terrible and some scenes in the uncut one were never even dubbed and subtitled anyway. However, a film like Tenebrae (1982) or Suspiria (1977) were made with the intention of having English audio and if they even exist with Italian audio (never seen them in Italian), I am guessing it would be an Italian dub made AFTER the proper English one, just for the Italian market, even though the films are Italian themselves. That said though, I preferred watching The Bird With The Crystal Plumage (1970) in English, even though that was originally in Italian (and had only seen it in Italian with subtitles for YEARS before I bought the DVD) - because the 2 main actors are speaking English on set anyway and the story seems to have more momentum in the English dub.
The reason they are all released more widely in English rather than Italian even though they are Italian films is that they were being made mainly for overseas distribution. The Italians were really into "genre film making" at that time. If American westerns were a big success like they were in the 60s, Italy would churn out a bunch of spaghetti westerns cheaper & faster, and always more violent (because Europeans had alot more freedom in their film making, alot less conservative than the Americans) and sell them overseas, and whadya know - you've suddenly got all these Italian westerns like Fistful of Dollars, The Good The Bad & The Ugly etc making HEAPS in America. Hitchcock's thrillers were huge in America, so then Italy made similar styled films (their "giallo" films) but loaded in far more sex & violence. Then "Dawn of the Dead" becomes a huge hit, next thing there are a hundred Italian zombie films on the market, again with nastier violence and more sleaze than Dawn Of The Dead and the US films. So obviously the horror fanatics in America can't wait to go see these Italian zombie films which take it a step further.
Generally you'll find the videos will ALWAYS be in English no matter what country the movie was released in, unless it was Italy itself which'd be in Italian, or Germany also usually had everything dubbed into German. Every other country would be in English & subtitled usually. With the new DVD releases, alot of them are good enough to provide both Italian with English subtitles or English audio to choose from. Some only have the English audio though, and also for most of the films the English soundtrack is the main & original one anyway as the film was made for the English market in the first place. You just happen to have 50 Italian actors in the film speaking their own language on set.
It depends on the film which I prefer. Generally the pre-1975 films are better in Italian (except always have an English speaking lead character somewhere badly dubbed into Italian!), but the ones after that often only even have English soundtracks. I know that all the films Argento did between 1977-1985 (his most popular era) had English soundtracks even though some actors are obviously speaking Italian, but the films were originally made with English soundtracks. For that reason I prefer to watch "Deep Red" (1975) in Italian because the English dub is terrible and some scenes in the uncut one were never even dubbed and subtitled anyway. However, a film like Tenebrae (1982) or Suspiria (1977) were made with the intention of having English audio and if they even exist with Italian audio (never seen them in Italian), I am guessing it would be an Italian dub made AFTER the proper English one, just for the Italian market, even though the films are Italian themselves. That said though, I preferred watching The Bird With The Crystal Plumage (1970) in English, even though that was originally in Italian (and had only seen it in Italian with subtitles for YEARS before I bought the DVD) - because the 2 main actors are speaking English on set anyway and the story seems to have more momentum in the English dub.
Wrathchild
Miserable Bastard
I can't speak for many Italian films (although I'd love to see Mario Brava's Black Sunday or any of Barbara Steele's 60s horror efforts), but the European movies I have seen, such as The Crimson Rivers (France) and Anatomie (Germany) always make much more impact in their original language with subtitles. English dubs reduce them to typical American teen horror flicks.
BTW, I read somewhere that the default language setting on The Fifth Element DVD is French. Good one, Luc
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BTW, I read somewhere that the default language setting on The Fifth Element DVD is French. Good one, Luc
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Spiff
I have the power
I thought Saw was pretty average. No interest whatsoever in seeing the sequel. An interesting premise ruined by some of the worst acting I've ever seen.
Southy
Proud Brisbane Metaller
Haha, I loved Undead!
Awesome zombies, terrible acting, loads of gore and a big cheesy ending!
That's what I like to see
Awesome zombies, terrible acting, loads of gore and a big cheesy ending!
That's what I like to see
If you want to see bad acting, check out Cellular. Worst performance I have seen in a LONG time goes to Kim Basinger. Saw was Oscar winning in comparison.
Anatomie was far better viewed in it's native language.
Anatomie was far better viewed in it's native language.
Thanks for your explanation Trent - things like that always seem to make sense when you come along and explain them.
Cellular - oh is that the one where someone's on a plane and their kid is going to be killed or something?
What's Anatomie about? I assume it's different to Anatomy of Hell, which was a rather silly and pointless movie.
The dude who made The Fifth Element is French or Canadian then I assume, Wrathy?
Cellular - oh is that the one where someone's on a plane and their kid is going to be killed or something?
What's Anatomie about? I assume it's different to Anatomy of Hell, which was a rather silly and pointless movie.
The dude who made The Fifth Element is French or Canadian then I assume, Wrathy?
Wrathchild
Miserable Bastard
Winmar said:
A cult of medical students who didn't take the Hippocratic oath and got up to all sorts of surgical mischief in the name of science. I think there's a sequel too.
I picked up Nightmare On Elm Street 1 and 3 over the weekend, and am thrilled that #3 includes the video for Dream Warriors. Finally I get to hear some Dokken
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Icarus
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