How many Opeth fans enjoy "classical" music?

theonecynic said:
I think if people who are into Opeth weren't into it because of the whole light/dark, classical/folk influence and musicality, they'd have rejected Damnation as a "sell-out". Opeth are lucky to have some pretty cool fans!:headbang:

Yeah, I'm really impressed. I had a hunch that Opeth fans were pretty open-minded. This has been a cool discussion.
 
he's probably joking,i wouldn't worry about it. Do you used MSN soundave? if so pm me your addy, i could always use someone to talk shop with. Not a lot of people i know are that into classical besides the odd beethoven, mozart, bach, or chopin piece.
 
soundave said:
A kindred spirit! I am unfamiliar with Scelsi and Norgard... what are they like (I get the basic gist of course...)

How about Witold Lutoslawski? The Chains are very cool and extremely dynamic. Ever hear Ecstatic Orange by Michael Torke (he's synesthetic, so he hears colors and composes pieces that are a "color"...people I've heard who have this often say it's a curse, but it sounds cool to me!)

Charles Ives's Unanswered Question is really haunting and sad and worth checking out, though I think there may only be like 1 recorded version of it.
I really want to get into some of this stuff. I have some stuff by Beethoven, Rachmaninoff and a few other classical composers but nothing substantial (well I do have Beethoven's 5th on one CD which is mind blowing!).

I'm a little bit synesthetic, but for me it's the instruments and how they sound that determine the 'color' of a piece and how it 'looks' and not the music itself. Opeth songs (and pretty much anything with metal guitar) are kind of rough, fuzzy gray, whereas acoustic parts are yellowish...well I'm getting off topic. If anyone wants to do some AIM trading for some of these classical albums, my SN is MisterGroovy1023.
 
Hey Mumblefood, are you familiar with Malcolm Forsyth at all? He's a Canadian composer out of Calgary. On a total whim a friend of mine and I went to a couple performances during a Summer Music Academy event in Victoria hoping to hear some dark classical music. We ended up getting far more than we ever hoped for... Forsyth conducted his "Rhapsody for 14 Strings (1982)" and it blew both of us away. It was an extremely dark and atmospheric piece. The closest thing I can compare it to would be some of what I've heard from Bartok. Since then I've also had the pleasure of witnessing his "Serenade For Strings (1986)" which he described as "his version of a Zulu war dance" and was as dark and thunderous as anything I've heard in metal. The unfortunate thing is that the only way you can hear this stuff is to see it performed in concert or to go to a Canadian Music Center location and listen to it in their library. I believe there is a location in Calgary though so if you ever get the chance I highly recommend checking out those pieces. He does have some recorded works such as his "Electra Rising" symphony which is good but is a bit lighter than the other pieces I mentioned. Worth checking out too though.:cool:
 
Satim said:
Hey Mumblefood, are you familiar with Malcolm Forsyth at all? He's a Canadian composer out of Calgary. On a total whim a friend of mine and I went to a couple performances during a Summer Music Academy event in Victoria hoping to hear some dark classical music. We ended up getting far more than we ever hoped for... Forsyth conducted his "Rhapsody for 14 Strings (1982)" and it blew both of us away. It was an extremely dark and atmospheric piece. The closest thing I can compare it to would be some of what I've heard from Bartok. Since then I've also had the pleasure of witnessing his "Serenade For Strings (1986)" which he described as "his version of a Zulu war dance" and was as dark and thunderous as anything I've heard in metal. The unfortunate thing is that the only way you can hear this stuff is to see it performed in concert or to go to a Canadian Music Center location and listen to it in their library. I believe there is a location in Calgary though so if you ever get the chance I highly recommend checking out those pieces. He does have some recorded works such as his "Electra Rising" symphony which is good but is a bit lighter than the other pieces I mentioned. Worth checking out too though.:cool:

hey, thank you very much for the heads up! I'd never heard of the composer or the pieces, so it'll be great to check it out, i could possibly even see it live! I love LOVE darker classical music.
 
Mumblefood said:
hey, thank you very much for the heads up! I'd never heard of the composer or the pieces, so it'll be great to check it out, i could possibly even see it live! I love LOVE darker classical music.

No problem, hope you get a chance to hear it. It's truly sad that this stuff hasn't been released as I think a lot of people into dark music would be into it.

By the way, you mentioned Arvo Part... how is his stuff?? I was wandering around in an A&B Sound a while ago and they were playing some music that had this ultra doomy horn part that could have been on a My Dying Bride album... turned out that it was Arvo Part's 'Lamentate'. I couldn't quite convince myself to grab it but I keep thinking maybe I should have... I'm craving something that's basically the "classical" equivalent of doom metal or something like Tenhi, do you think this would satisfy that??
 
I like classical music. I went through a phase where I liked Wagner the best, then I decided he was too...I don't know, everytime I listened to his compositions I thought of Nazis marching across Poland. I like Beethoven, Mozart, and the band Apocalyptica (but I don't like the Metallica covers, because I hate Metallica). But I only listen to classical when I'm in an introspective mood...which is to say, rarely.
 
Satim said:
No problem, hope you get a chance to hear it. It's truly sad that this stuff hasn't been released as I think a lot of people into dark music would be into it.

By the way, you mentioned Arvo Part... how is his stuff?? I was wandering around in an A&B Sound a while ago and they were playing some music that had this ultra doomy horn part that could have been on a My Dying Bride album... turned out that it was Arvo Part's 'Lamentate'. I couldn't quite convince myself to grab it but I keep thinking maybe I should have... I'm craving something that's basically the "classical" equivalent of doom metal or something like Tenhi, do you think this would satisfy that??

hmm... no it wouldn't, but Arvo is my favorite composer. Arvo is not really so "dark" as much as just... divinely beautiful. His compositions are unreal. If you want Arvo's darkest piece though, listen to Litany. Oh my god. That piece just obliterates my soul.
 
Hi All

Yes I would recommend Arvo Part too. I haven't heard too much of his stuff, but it's definitely eery and has a 'certain sound'. My favourites are from the 'Berliner' Mass - 'Credo' and 'Sanctus' especially. I don't know if he's religious (I'm not) but there is something very other worldy about that last piece in particular, and most of his music in general.

Haven't heard of any of the new composers mentioned but I'm going to check them out!

Anyone like Vaughn Williams? He's always remembered for 'Lark Ascending' and everyone always thinks that all there is to him. The second movement of his third symphony is one of the most desolate and beautiful peices of music I've ever heard.
 
I like some classical music, i just can't sit around and listen to it all day long... I need some fucking Opeth, Death, The Berzerker, and Necrophagist in me!!
-Fuzzy
 
Hmm the closest thing I hvae to a classical record is the "Requiem for a dream" score. Composed by clint mansel feat. the Kronos Quartet. I really enjoy it but the annopying thing is that you have deal with the sort of Party music that´s on some of the tracks, but aside from that it´s great.
 
The best classical composer is Karol Szymanowski without any doubt;
other notable classical composers that the refined metal-head should already be listening to include, in order of greatness.

Astor Piazzolla;
Shostakovich;
Grieg;
Paganini (guitar works);
Albeniz (guitar);
Chopin;
Franck;
Janacek;
de Falla (guitar);
Ferdinando Sor;

I recommend going to this website and downloading some free mp3s from this particular virtuoso... this guy is better than good; "VOLODJA BALZALORSKY"

http://www.ampcast.com/music/10619/artist.php

go to here also to discover some other random stuff

www.classiccat.net
 
I really enjoy some classical music. Went to see Mahler's 7:th a year ago
with my dad who's a composer of modern classical music. He's kinda
famous... Not that everybody knows his name or anything, but his music gets
performed regulary and in different countries not just Sweden. Just jotted
that down for the Club of Interest to take notes. I hear they're busy these
days ;)

But I really don't listen to classical. But when I get the chance, I don't back
down. Love music. Love everything about music - 'cept for bad music
ofcuze :)