How Much You Bench?

Dude, have you read the routine they were following for the 300 movie? It's insane. I beleive it was in Mens Health magazine or something like that. I was reading it while in the waiting room @ the chiro.

I read about it online a few weeks ago(yahoo had some article on it, but the movie looks so fruity and idiotic, I doubt I'll ever see it). I have never heard of this kettlebell before, but it looks intriguing.

Here's the workout...all exercises are done without rest. Just go, go, go.
Pullups - 25
Deadlifts with 135lbs - 50
Pushups - 50
24-inch Box jumps - 50
Floor wipers - 50
1-arm 36lbs Kettlebell Clean n Press - 50 reps
Pullups - 25
One actor, Andrew Pleavin, completed the workout in 18:11.

Anyway, I've been revising my own workout to basically greatly reduce rest time, and to workout the whole body in 45 minutes 3-4 times a week. I change the order and type of exercises everytime, and Ive been doing a fair amount of cardio, and alot of lower back and half clean and presses (my shoulder prevents me from pressing or lifting above shoulder level). And lemme tell you, I have never been in better shape. I have alot more energy, and I've become incredibly vascular--veins I didnt know I had are popping out.

I've been lifting for a long time, so perhaps this isnt the best way to build muscle, but its been fantastic for keeping a very fit muscular and athletic
look. And i think, apart from having no ability to press, I might be stronger than I ever have been due to the extra core and lower back work.
 
Okay, does anyone have any advice for a complete n00b to the world of fitness and health? It's not that I'm not athletic, in fact I'm fairly competent when I actually do anything, but I've always banked on my metabolism to keep me thin, and now that that's slowing down I'm seeing developments I'm not entirely happy about. I've never done any serious lifting and never had a regular workout schedule of any other kind for very long, and even then was just basically push ups and sit ups, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Anyway, I've been revising my own workout to basically greatly reduce rest time, and to workout the whole body in 45 minutes 3-4 times a week.

I started out using full body routines and I'm thinking about going back, at least for a bit. I'm currently doing a split routine but definitely need to change things around a bit. I tend to only lift weights 3 times a week, and it seems like with that sort of schedule doing FBW is pretty good?
 
Okay, does anyone have any advice for a complete n00b to the world of fitness and health? It's not that I'm not athletic, in fact I'm fairly competent when I actually do anything, but I've always banked on my metabolism to keep me thin, and now that that's slowing down I'm seeing developments I'm not entirely happy about. I've never done any serious lifting and never had a regular workout schedule of any other kind for very long, and even then was just basically push ups and sit ups, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Any of these would be a great place to start:

http://www.wannabebig.com/category.php?cat=4

Zod
 
Why do I submit myself to personally inflicted torture at least once/week? I'm bout to puke my fucking quads up through my pelvis and out through my esophagus. There's a sight for sore eyes.
 
Maybe I should have used the word "functional" instead of practical. An MMA fighter is going to try to pack on as much strength as possible with the least amount of bulky weight (to try and remain in their ideal weight class) and have the lowest body fat percentage possible while still trying to be the quickest and most flexible person in the ring. The even the most minimal training done to meet these ends is going to put you in absolutely amazing shape regardless of your body type, whereas a body building workout isn't necessarily going to be successful simply because of the limitations provided by your genetics.

For the sake of being concise and less confusing: an MMA workout is going to seek to maximize your genetics while a body building workout seeks to overcome genetics to create a an idealized body type that simply may or not be possible depending on your genetics. The lack of progress toward that idealized body type is going to frustrate many people (who probably aren't preparing correctly in the first place) and the preparations aren't going to be practical for most people anyway (eating a TON, strict lifting schedule, disciplined eating, etc.).

Btw: I have nothing at all against people who body build, this is just what I've seen in my experience.
Interesting. I suppose it's nitpicking, but to me, functional strength is simply the strength required to function in everyday life (moving a TV without hurting your back, carrying the groceries from the car, etc.). I've trained in a number of MAs, but never did anything beyond what we did in class. That said, what does an MMA workout look like? I'm curious. Thanks.

Zod
 
Check this guy out. He's originally from Cameroon and is the Heavyweight Muay-Thai champion of the world. Personally, I'd just pull out a fucking gun if ever confronted with this maniac (provided I knew it was him). He is fucking SICK!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8xHIqF3Dcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10uKqQTdIz8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_WjcH1njw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb8zH6SvWQk

Snippets of his workouts are provided therein as well as probably more on youtube. SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK!!!! Total package...strength, power, speed, flexibility, explosiveness...did i mention SPEED?!
 
Check this guy out. He's originally from Cameroon and is the Heavyweight Muay-Thai champion of the world. Personally, I'd just pull out a fucking gun if ever confronted with this maniac (provided I knew it was him). He is fucking SICK!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8xHIqF3Dcc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10uKqQTdIz8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_WjcH1njw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb8zH6SvWQk

Snippets of his workouts are provided therein as well as probably more on youtube. SICK SICK SICK SICK SICK!!!! Total package...strength, power, speed, flexibility, explosiveness...did i mention SPEED?!

Holy shit! That's insane.

Zod
 
There's definitely some good information there, and maybe this isn't exactly the right thread, but do you have anything geared more toward becoming lean? My priority is to lose body fat, I'm not particularly interested in building muscle.
Well, nothing burns calories and reduces body fat like the presence of muscle. A pound of muscle at rest burns 43 calories per hour. A pound of fat at rest burns 4. Therefore. if you added ten pounds of muscle, you could burn as many calories sleeping as spending 45 minutes on a stair master.

People tend to think cardio = fat loss. However, the best way to attain body recomposition, is through weight training, complimented with light cardio. However, if you're opposed to weight training, I would recommend martial arts. I dropped 30 pounds with a combination of Muay Thai and Jeet Kune Do.

Zod
 
Here's a good article by John Berardi for you brotha:
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm

Take a look around the nutrition world. Confusing, isn’t it?

Conflicting advice is everywhere, and you’re stuck in the middle. You wonder whether anyone out there even knows what they’re talking about, or whether the experts will ever reach a consensus on anything. You start to wonder whether you’ll need a degree in nutritional biochemistry before you can lose that stubborn abdominal fat.

So what’s the deal? Why so much confusion? Why does one expert suggest that high protein is best for everyone, while another expert suggests high carb and yet another expert suggests high fat? Besides, what exactly do high protein, high carb, and high fat really mean? And why are other experts telling us that food choices should be based on our "metabolic type," our "blood type," or our "ancestry"?

One expert says to eat like a Neanderthal and another says eat like a Visigoth, or perhaps a Viking. But while searching for nutritional Valhalla, most people just get lost and eat like a Modern American—and end up looking more Sumo than Samurai.

These days, we have a cacophony of expertise: lots of confusing noise from the experts drowning out the signal of truth.

On the surface, it appears as if today’s nutrition technology is quite advanced. After all, we have at our disposal more nutrition information than ever before. More money is being spent on nutrition research than in any time in history. Every day, impressive strides are being made in the field. Dozens of nutrition experts are rising to prominence. Yet simultaneously we’re witnessing a steadily increasing rate of obesity, an increase in nutrition-related illness (Diabetes, CVD, and Syndrome X), and an increase in nutrition-related mortality.

Part of the problem is that much of the information hasn’t reached the people who need it. Part of the problem is that even when it does reach those people, they often don’t use it. And certainly, the problem is multifactorial—there are probably many more reasons than I can list here.

How much more information do we need?


But the curious thing is that many people try to solve the problem by seeking out more information. They know it all and still want more. If there’s one thing of which I am absolutely convinced, it’s that a lack of good nutrition information isn’t what prevents us from reaching our goals. We already know everything we need to know. Sometimes the real problem isn’t too little information but too much.

All the fundamental principles you need to achieve good health and optimal body composition are out there already, and have been for years. Unfortunately, with 500 experts for every fundamental principle, and very little money to be made from repeating other people’s ideas, experts must continually emphasize the small (and often relatively unimportant) differences between their diet/eating plans and the diet/eating plans of all the other experts out there.

In the world of advertising and marketing, this is called "differentiation." By highlighting the small distinctions and dimming out the large similarities between their program and all the others, they’re jostling for your next nutritional dollar.

Now, and let me be clear on this, I’m not accusing nutrition experts of quackery.

Yes, some programs are utter crap. Those are generally quite easy to pick out and don’t merit discussion here. But most experts do know what they are talking about, can get results, and wholeheartedly believe in what they’re doing. Many of the differences between them are theoretical and not practical, and on the fundamentals they generally agree completely.

It’s all good — sorta

In fact, many of the mainstream programs out there, if not most of them, will work. To what extent they work, and for how long, varies. As long as a program is internally consistent, follows a few basic nutritional tenets, and as long as you adhere to it consistently, without hesitation, and without mixing principles haphazardly taken from other programs, you’ll get some results. It’s that simple, and that hard (as you can see, results depend as much on psychology as on biochemistry).

But if you’re like most people, you’ll first survey all the most often discussed programs before deciding which to follow. And in this appraisal, you’ll get confused, lost, and then do the inevitable. That’s right, you’ll revert back to your old, ineffectual nutrition habits.

Instead of parsing out the similarities between all the successful plans out there, the common principles that affect positive, long-term change, you get thrown off the trail by the stench of the steaming piles of detail.

The Atkins program works for all patients under the direct care of the Atkins team—as long as patients follow it. The Zone program works for all patients under the direct care of the Sears team —as long as they follow it. The Pritkin Diet works for all patients under the care of the Pritkin team— as long as they follow it.

Yet, not all three plans are identical. How, then, can they all get impressive improvements in health and body composition? Well, either each team somehow magically draws the specific patient subpopulations most in need of their plan (doubtful) or each system possesses some basic fundamental principles that are more important than the ratios of protein to carbs to fats.

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Nutritional Programs

Here’s my take on it. I call these principles, "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Nutritional Programs," a shameless and possibly illegal play on Steven Covey’s book, "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People." (Great book, by the way—you should read it sometime.)

These aren’t the newest techniques from the latest cutting-edge plan. Rather, they are simple, time-tested, no nonsense habits that you need to get into when designing a good eating program.

1. Eat every 2-3 hours, no matter what. You should eat between 5-8 meals per day.

2. Eat complete (containing all the essential amino acids), lean protein with each meal.

3. Eat fruits and/or vegetables with each food meal.

4. Ensure that your carbohydrate intake comes from fruits and vegetables. Exception: workout and post-workout drinks and meals.

5. Ensure that 25-35% of your energy intake comes from fat, with your fat intake split equally between saturates (e.g. animal fat), monounsaturates (e.g., olive oil), and polyunsaturates (e.g. flax oil, salmon oil).

6. Drink only non-calorie containing beverages, the best choices being water and green tea.

7. Eat mostly whole foods (except workout and post-workout drinks).
So what about calories, or macronutrient ratios, or any number of other things that I’ve covered in other articles? The short answer is that if you aren’t already practicing the above-mentioned habits, and by practicing them I mean putting them to use over 90% of the time (i.e., no more than 4 meals out of an average 42 meals per week violate any of those rules), everything else is pretty pointless.

Moreover, many people can achieve the health and the body composition they desire using the 7 habits alone. No kidding! In fact, with some of my clients I spend the first few months just supervising their adherence to these 7 rules—an effective but costly way to learn them.

If you’ve reached the 90% threshold, you may need a bit more individualization beyond the 7 habits. If so, search around on this site. Many of these little tricks can be found in my many articles published right here. But before looking for them, before assuming you’re ready for individualization; make sure you’ve truly mastered the 7 habits. Then, while keeping the 7 habits as the consistent foundation, tweak away.

Of course, if you want a complete guide to doing this yourself, I strongly recommend you pick up a copy of Precision Nutrition, where I'll show you in great detail exactly what to do.


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Take this info as foundational. I'm sure by just following this simple plan along with some light excersice will work you wonders. Actually, Im willing to bet just keeping more of an eye on your nutrition in the least and doing some light excercise 5/7 days/week will work you wonders since you never had to do any of this before.
 
Why do I submit myself to personally inflicted torture at least once/week? I'm bout to puke my fucking quads up through my pelvis and out through my esophagus. There's a sight for sore eyes.

Bro. I did squats yesterday and felt no ill effects aside from fatigue. Today, I feel like curling up in a little ball and sucking my thumb ala Trylakos. It feels like I just donated bone marrow. :erk:

Well, nothing burns calories and reduces body fat like the presence of muscle. A pound of muscle at rest burns 43 calories per hour. A pound of fat at rest burns 4. Therefore. if you added ten pounds of muscle, you could burn as many calories sleeping as spending 45 minutes on a stair master.

I never knew this. That is friggin amazing.
 
The leg equipment is in the back near the backdoor at my gym. I need to leave the backdoor cracked in case I need to run outside and hurl. Also, I need to get frsh air in between each set. I did a lot of supersets today and surprisingly didnt toss my junk due to some guy slowing me down between sets by chewing my ear off.
 
Well, nothing burns calories and reduces body fat like the presence of muscle. A pound of muscle at rest burns 43 calories per hour. A pound of fat at rest burns 4. Therefore. if you added ten pounds of muscle, you could burn as many calories sleeping as spending 45 minutes on a stair master.

People tend to think cardio = fat loss. However, the best way to attain body recomposition, is through weight training, complimented with light cardio. However, if you're opposed to weight training, I would recommend martial arts. I dropped 30 pounds with a combination of Muay Thai and Jeet Kune Do.

Zod

I guess I should get some weights then.

Zod gives sound advice.

Matt...what does your typical days diet look like? including drinks.

Hahahahaha, to be honest, it's really quite shit. Though I do drink a decent amount of water, I drink a lot of Coke too, and fruit punch. I eat way too much canned/frozen food. I honestly don't know anything at all as far as nutrition goes. I have no idea what types of food I should be eating except for the fact that I could be eating a lot more fruits and vegetables.



Anyway, thanks to both of you for your help. I'm going to try to be more conscious of what I eat and try to eat more fruits and vegetables. One more question, however; any tips on what makes a good cardio plan? My plan is to have a cardio plan as my basis for getting into shape and supplementing it with some weights, in addition to eating better. I've been putting this off for far too long.
 
Go play basketball with the town T-rones. I've been playing basketball rather consistently as of late. At the end of a game, I am left in a state of oxygen debt well passed my balanced budget. It gets your heart rate flowing, and isn't as laborious due to you concentrating on a ball and not your breath. 2 hours can go by quicker than a drop of a hat.

If you do happen to play a game of pick up with the urban pavescrapers of your town, bring some sort of protection, and at no time, under any circumstances, feed them!!!

Since you don't care about packing on muscle you don't have to be concerned with how long you go. If you do want muscle, keep your cardio brief by limiting yourself to 30 minute sessions. These sessions should be done at a seperate time to weight training, if at all possible.

I just dled some hot as czechoslovakian broad getting her pelvis pummeled. Cardio time!!!
 
Here's a good article by John Berardi for you brotha:
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/7habits.htm

Take a look around the nutrition world. Confusing, isn’t it?

Conflicting advice is everywhere, and you’re stuck in the middle. You wonder whether anyone out there even knows what they’re talking about, or whether the experts will ever reach a consensus on anything. You start to wonder whether you’ll need a degree in nutritional biochemistry before you can lose that stubborn abdominal fat.

So what’s the deal? Why so much confusion? Why does one expert suggest that high protein is best for everyone, while another expert suggests high carb and yet another expert suggests high fat? Besides, what exactly do high protein, high carb, and high fat really mean? And why are other experts telling us that food choices should be based on our "metabolic type," our "blood type," or our "ancestry"?

One expert says to eat like a Neanderthal and another says eat like a Visigoth, or perhaps a Viking. But while searching for nutritional Valhalla, most people just get lost and eat like a Modern American—and end up looking more Sumo than Samurai.

These days, we have a cacophony of expertise: lots of confusing noise from the experts drowning out the signal of truth.

On the surface, it appears as if today’s nutrition technology is quite advanced. After all, we have at our disposal more nutrition information than ever before. More money is being spent on nutrition research than in any time in history. Every day, impressive strides are being made in the field. Dozens of nutrition experts are rising to prominence. Yet simultaneously we’re witnessing a steadily increasing rate of obesity, an increase in nutrition-related illness (Diabetes, CVD, and Syndrome X), and an increase in nutrition-related mortality.

Part of the problem is that much of the information hasn’t reached the people who need it. Part of the problem is that even when it does reach those people, they often don’t use it. And certainly, the problem is multifactorial—there are probably many more reasons than I can list here.

How much more information do we need?


But the curious thing is that many people try to solve the problem by seeking out more information. They know it all and still want more. If there’s one thing of which I am absolutely convinced, it’s that a lack of good nutrition information isn’t what prevents us from reaching our goals. We already know everything we need to know. Sometimes the real problem isn’t too little information but too much.

All the fundamental principles you need to achieve good health and optimal body composition are out there already, and have been for years. Unfortunately, with 500 experts for every fundamental principle, and very little money to be made from repeating other people’s ideas, experts must continually emphasize the small (and often relatively unimportant) differences between their diet/eating plans and the diet/eating plans of all the other experts out there.

In the world of advertising and marketing, this is called "differentiation." By highlighting the small distinctions and dimming out the large similarities between their program and all the others, they’re jostling for your next nutritional dollar.

Now, and let me be clear on this, I’m not accusing nutrition experts of quackery.

Yes, some programs are utter crap. Those are generally quite easy to pick out and don’t merit discussion here. But most experts do know what they are talking about, can get results, and wholeheartedly believe in what they’re doing. Many of the differences between them are theoretical and not practical, and on the fundamentals they generally agree completely.

It’s all good — sorta

In fact, many of the mainstream programs out there, if not most of them, will work. To what extent they work, and for how long, varies. As long as a program is internally consistent, follows a few basic nutritional tenets, and as long as you adhere to it consistently, without hesitation, and without mixing principles haphazardly taken from other programs, you’ll get some results. It’s that simple, and that hard (as you can see, results depend as much on psychology as on biochemistry).

But if you’re like most people, you’ll first survey all the most often discussed programs before deciding which to follow. And in this appraisal, you’ll get confused, lost, and then do the inevitable. That’s right, you’ll revert back to your old, ineffectual nutrition habits.

Instead of parsing out the similarities between all the successful plans out there, the common principles that affect positive, long-term change, you get thrown off the trail by the stench of the steaming piles of detail.

The Atkins program works for all patients under the direct care of the Atkins team—as long as patients follow it. The Zone program works for all patients under the direct care of the Sears team —as long as they follow it. The Pritkin Diet works for all patients under the care of the Pritkin team— as long as they follow it.

Yet, not all three plans are identical. How, then, can they all get impressive improvements in health and body composition? Well, either each team somehow magically draws the specific patient subpopulations most in need of their plan (doubtful) or each system possesses some basic fundamental principles that are more important than the ratios of protein to carbs to fats.

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Nutritional Programs

Here’s my take on it. I call these principles, "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective Nutritional Programs," a shameless and possibly illegal play on Steven Covey’s book, "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People." (Great book, by the way—you should read it sometime.)

These aren’t the newest techniques from the latest cutting-edge plan. Rather, they are simple, time-tested, no nonsense habits that you need to get into when designing a good eating program.

1. Eat every 2-3 hours, no matter what. You should eat between 5-8 meals per day.

2. Eat complete (containing all the essential amino acids), lean protein with each meal.

3. Eat fruits and/or vegetables with each food meal.

4. Ensure that your carbohydrate intake comes from fruits and vegetables. Exception: workout and post-workout drinks and meals.

5. Ensure that 25-35% of your energy intake comes from fat, with your fat intake split equally between saturates (e.g. animal fat), monounsaturates (e.g., olive oil), and polyunsaturates (e.g. flax oil, salmon oil).

6. Drink only non-calorie containing beverages, the best choices being water and green tea.

7. Eat mostly whole foods (except workout and post-workout drinks).
So what about calories, or macronutrient ratios, or any number of other things that I’ve covered in other articles? The short answer is that if you aren’t already practicing the above-mentioned habits, and by practicing them I mean putting them to use over 90% of the time (i.e., no more than 4 meals out of an average 42 meals per week violate any of those rules), everything else is pretty pointless.

Moreover, many people can achieve the health and the body composition they desire using the 7 habits alone. No kidding! In fact, with some of my clients I spend the first few months just supervising their adherence to these 7 rules—an effective but costly way to learn them.

If you’ve reached the 90% threshold, you may need a bit more individualization beyond the 7 habits. If so, search around on this site. Many of these little tricks can be found in my many articles published right here. But before looking for them, before assuming you’re ready for individualization; make sure you’ve truly mastered the 7 habits. Then, while keeping the 7 habits as the consistent foundation, tweak away.

Of course, if you want a complete guide to doing this yourself, I strongly recommend you pick up a copy of Precision Nutrition, where I'll show you in great detail exactly what to do.


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Take this info as foundational. I'm sure by just following this simple plan along with some light excersice will work you wonders. Actually, Im willing to bet just keeping more of an eye on your nutrition in the least and doing some light excercise 5/7 days/week will work you wonders since you never had to do any of this before.


Decent read. :headbang: