Rusty
A-HAHAHA!
.Originally posted by King Purple Rainbow
Thank you, O wise one.
I shall take the Opeth CD that calls to me...
Yes, do that, but only if it calls "MORNINGRISE" in a really loud voice.
Morningrise rules. But whatever album you get, you should find it at least equally as good as BWP.
TyrantOfFlames
Of Chaos and Order
I always found Credence to the most incomplete Opeth song I have ever heard. It just seems like half a song to me. Not only that, but the vocals are the most uninspired I have ever heard Mikael do. That's not to say that I don't like the song, but I only listen to it in the context of MAYH. I never skip to it. The guitar is okay, and that's the only song that has noticeable bass in the entire album, but it seems kinda empty. It is certainly no Harvest or To Bid You Farewell.
Another subject: To Bid You Farewell. When I first got Morningrise, TBYF was my favorite song by a landslide. But after about 10 listens, I discovered that it actually offers the least of all the songs on the album. The others are far more epic, emotional and meaningful. Actually this seems to hold true with all of Opeth's "ballads". They are generally on the simple side (relatively), and are best heard in the context of the album. I once made a CD with a bunch of ballad type songs, (sad music), and threw some of the Opeth ones in there. I was surprised to find out that I rarely listened to them on that CD, but when I listened to those ballads on their respective CDs, I never skipped them. Opeth albums are, to put it shortly, perfect the way they are.
Some opinions are better than others. A racist has an opinion, and is a fool b/c of it, according to intelligent folks. Morningrise is their best album. Orchid second. The rest are good, but suck major ass if compared to these first two. If you disagree, you are a foolish goddamned son of a bitch, and I hope you die.
Love,
Metal88
Love,
Metal88
Metal88,
I disagree. Consider my tastes: I love MAYH the most; Orchid and BP come a close second, Morningrise and Still Life, awesome in themselves, come last. And though I have bad mouthed albums in the past, I always come around to the idea that all the Opeth albums equally rock, each for unique reasons. The albums you like or dislike the most is a matter of personality. And maybe it's a mistake- I haven't figured it out yet- to think music should be graded in accordance to a fine scale.
And how do you prove Morningrise is better than Orchid?
your buddy,
X
I disagree. Consider my tastes: I love MAYH the most; Orchid and BP come a close second, Morningrise and Still Life, awesome in themselves, come last. And though I have bad mouthed albums in the past, I always come around to the idea that all the Opeth albums equally rock, each for unique reasons. The albums you like or dislike the most is a matter of personality. And maybe it's a mistake- I haven't figured it out yet- to think music should be graded in accordance to a fine scale.
And how do you prove Morningrise is better than Orchid?
your buddy,
X
X! You participate in these stupid ass "What is the best Opeth album?" Threads??? Hahaha! Funny how we make fun of these on the other threads. So I was bored last ngiht. Anyways.....
Really? That's insane.
BP??? Fuck!
No they don't, well, not Morningrise. If you were playing with full deck and not totally mind-fucked and self deluded, you would see that Morningrise is the second best cd of all time, from any band. You would also see that BP is an obvious expected continuation of the shit they have been doing and has zero surprises. You could say it's "MAYH part 3" which totally sucks ass. But you already knew that, I was just stating the obvious.
Some are MUCH better than others, for unique reasons. It's a shame you didn't realize that before, but at least now you do.
Yeah.....just like being a goddam racist!
I guess this point is a side note? This is a mistake, I believe. On a fine scale I don't think Morningrise is so superior to BP, though it is better. The production and basic sound is what is most superior on their first two cd's. I loved MAYH and Still life for a while, but after some time that "new rythem guitar" sound they have on all the cd's after morningrise became a MONOTONOUS and nasty trademark of Opeth. I shiver with nausea just thinking about it. The albums are saved by good vocals, lyrics, and progressive nature. (so that ugly buzzing guitar is not constant)
Listen to each of them.
Also, a contradiction: Among your personal tastes you've lumped Orchid with BP and Morningrise with Still Life. B/c of this above question you've asked me it seems you realize orchid and Morningrise should be grouped together and then the other three grouped together. (with that FUCKING monotonous guitar sound) It seems Orchid and Morningrise should be at the top together or bottom together. So why aren't they for you? Maybe it's b/c you think like a RACIST! Hahahaha
Hope you got a kick out of all that. hehehe
Your Arrogant and Brilliant friend,
Metal88
Really? That's insane.
BP??? Fuck!
No they don't, well, not Morningrise. If you were playing with full deck and not totally mind-fucked and self deluded, you would see that Morningrise is the second best cd of all time, from any band. You would also see that BP is an obvious expected continuation of the shit they have been doing and has zero surprises. You could say it's "MAYH part 3" which totally sucks ass. But you already knew that, I was just stating the obvious.
Some are MUCH better than others, for unique reasons. It's a shame you didn't realize that before, but at least now you do.
Yeah.....just like being a goddam racist!
I guess this point is a side note? This is a mistake, I believe. On a fine scale I don't think Morningrise is so superior to BP, though it is better. The production and basic sound is what is most superior on their first two cd's. I loved MAYH and Still life for a while, but after some time that "new rythem guitar" sound they have on all the cd's after morningrise became a MONOTONOUS and nasty trademark of Opeth. I shiver with nausea just thinking about it. The albums are saved by good vocals, lyrics, and progressive nature. (so that ugly buzzing guitar is not constant)
Listen to each of them.
Also, a contradiction: Among your personal tastes you've lumped Orchid with BP and Morningrise with Still Life. B/c of this above question you've asked me it seems you realize orchid and Morningrise should be grouped together and then the other three grouped together. (with that FUCKING monotonous guitar sound) It seems Orchid and Morningrise should be at the top together or bottom together. So why aren't they for you? Maybe it's b/c you think like a RACIST! Hahahaha
Hope you got a kick out of all that. hehehe
Your Arrogant and Brilliant friend,
Metal88
Listening to some people here, after listening to BWP I thought the other CDs must be life changing, but well, they weren't. I still think BWP is the best, and possibly my favourite album of all time. each to their own, blah blah blah
While I disagree with you regarding the quality of TBYF as an individual song (To each his own I guess), I do however agree with you when you implied that the continuity of songs on Opeth albums as "perfect the way they are". This is why I personally strongly dislike (can't bring myself to say the 'H' word when talking Opeth) the re-releases containing the bonus songs..... At the moment I have a couple of albums with bonus tracks (the rest are originals), and as soon as the original tracklist complete's, I skip to the next disc, or stop listening. Eventually I'll get around to ripping the CD's to my p00ta and re-burning them minus the bonus tracks...... It really is THAT irritatting to me.....
Sure. Don't you? Your shit don't stink?!?
Yah, it's insanely accurate, if anything.
BP is gorgeous, man. You just need to see the light and ditch this pioneer's fixation you have with "antimonotony". All the world is cliche. Eventually one has to judge art by a different criteria.
Man, you are the epitome of brainwash supreme! MAYH is Opeth's finest achievement to date, and it is marvelous, a fine compact creature of aesthetic darkness, heaven with a shade of grey; ie, it is bombass and all that.
You would also see that BP is an obvious expected continuation of the shit they have been doing and has zero surprises. You could say it's "MAYH part 3" which totally sucks ass. But you already knew that, I was just stating the obvious.
This is a mere grasping at straws!
MAYH is an island. Whichever way you'd class Still Life and BP, the fact is, Still Life doesn't have BP songs on it and vice versa. And check your logic. Morningrise is Orchid part 2! Chronology has it that Morningrise is inferior.I'd say that we are entitled to LIKE Opeth albums much better than others. No see distinction? :Smug:
Yeah.....just like being a goddam racist!
You dirty albumist! I don't claim: a) superiority of an album, concommitantly to b) inferiority of other Opeth albums. Get it straight!
Apples and oranges. Some people hate the production of Morningrise and Orchid.
True, Opeth music became more truly homophonic after MR. But that's a lateral difference. What they sacrifice they gain with respect to other things. Sounds penetrate, riffs iterate, songs are allowed to breathe, and atmosphere takes over and melts with the progressive progression of the totally bombass long songs. Amen.
Yeah, you listen, but do you hear the music? I don't think you hear the music! You have not heard the soul! You are not worthy.
Welcome to lala land. Who would have thought to grade the opeth albums like I do? That proves my bombass axiom. Opeth albums are a priori great and equal- it's just a matter of taste affecting what you like the most.
And.... fuck you! you smelly albumist. Go back to your religion threads!
X
I'm sure I speak for plenty of people when I say that the Opeth album I love most is the one I happen to be listening to at that moment. There are parts on each album that are so fantastic that when I hear them I can't help but feel that album has their best work.
Oh, and isn't it amazing how great the playing is on Orchid, even though it was made at the beginning of the band's career?
Oh, and isn't it amazing how great the playing is on Orchid, even though it was made at the beginning of the band's career?
Although, like said many times before, every Opeth cd is incrible in its own way, I feel that some stand out more then the others. BWP is really good but its very drudgy in the sense it doesn't have most of the metal flair most Opeth songs have. ALthough its good progression I hope this is a one album sorta deal. IMO MAYH and Still life are the best in the discography, with Morning RIse being next, but The Leper Affinity, Bleak, and Harvest are prolly three of their best songs.
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Ibsen
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I personally think Orchid was the best. Maybe it's because it was the first one i got and the first time I listened to Opeth but i think it is pure genius. Where else can you find such excellent use of harmony? They other albums have good harmonizing but they don't have counter-pointing like Orchid. As for the worst album, i think the worst one was MAYH. Alot of people think it was great but I think they were just going along with Mikael's opinion.
Originally posted by rustymetal
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Yes, do that, but only if it calls "MORNINGRISE" in a really loud voice.
Screw morningrise for 2 seconds.... its not as great as its always made out to be. My Arms, Your Hearse and Still Life kills it production wise and overall.
I swear most people here say morningrise ,because other people do.
And to the other person I guess I should just die ,since I think Morningrise is the worst of the 5 albums.
bleak happens to be one of my favorite songs from any band ever, so blackwater park is my favorite opeth cd :/
but then again, i haven't listened to any other album in full (only some tracks from each), so i need to do that ASAP ;o
should i go with morningrise next?
but then again, i haven't listened to any other album in full (only some tracks from each), so i need to do that ASAP ;o
should i go with morningrise next?
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