If Mort Divine ruled the world

I take siding to be a performative behavior. It has to be socially visible.

A teacher might silently side with students, but in the case of interruptive or distracting comments, a teacher won't usually support or denounce out loud.
 
Many meteorologist and climatologists consider above 85-90 to be "hot." They probably chose 90 as a way to demonstrate that more places are experiencing greater hot-ness.
 
I don't understand people's objection to the idea behind that study, regardless of any objections to the study itself. The world is getting warmer. It's doubtful a NYT study can effectively convey that point, but a vast majority of scientists agree on it.
 
Sorry, i haven't been following up here so i might have missed some stuff. But who in the world thinks it's not getting warmer? I know that's how one side loves to spin it but the argument has never been about if it's getting warmer or not, it's about how and why.
 
Consensus =/= fact but- I don't really have any sort of ideological issue with the potentiality or likelihood that the earth is currently in a wamring pattern. My issue is with the religious hysteria surrounding the warming, its causes, and its dire consequences.
 
Consensus =/= fact but- I don't really have any sort of ideological issue with the potentiality or likelihood that the earth is currently in a wamring pattern. My issue is with the religious hysteria surrounding the warming, its causes, and its dire consequences.

Well its causes are almost certainly partially influenced by humans, and the consequences will likely be significant for near-future generations.

I know that consensus doesn't equal fact, but that's a pretty pointless comment.
 
Well its causes are almost certainly partially influenced by humans, and the consequences will likely be significant for near-future generations.

It probably is partially influenced, but the world has been hotter and has been much, much colder. We still attach too much significance to ourselves. I'd rather call them effects than consequences, at least as far as warming goes. This isn't ozone-killing emissions or plastic in the oceans, which have pretty clear connections with significant consequences.

I know that consensus doesn't equal fact, but that's a pretty pointless comment.

Well so is the constant trotting out of consensus as a justification by every hack in media.
 
It probably is partially influenced, but the world has been hotter and has been much, much colder. We still attach too much significance to ourselves.

It's not a competition with ancient epochs. So what if it's been hotter in the past? That's not the point. The point is that it's been warming since humans have started industrializing, and maybe we can do something to combat the consequences.

Saying it's been hotter in the far distant past has no practical bearing on the argument at hand.

I'd rather call them effects than consequences, at least as far as warming goes. This isn't ozone-killing emissions or plastic in the oceans, which have pretty clear connections with significant consequences.

I'm confused, because these things are connected to global warming...

Well so is the constant trotting out of consensus as a justification by every hack in media.

No, it's really not.
 
It's not a competition with ancient epochs. So what if it's been hotter in the past? That's not the point. The point is that it's been warming since humans have started industrializing, and maybe we can do something to combat the consequences.

Saying it's been hotter in the far distant past has no practical bearing on the argument at hand.

There is no coherent, explicit argument at hand other than one bound together between naked primarily coastal self interest and a climate stasis cult.

I'm confused, because these things are connected to global warming...

Plastic in the water makes the earth warmer? CFCs did contribute but have been widely curbed. The hole in the ozone has, by all accounts, very clear culprits and consequences. Carbon emissions much less so.

No, it's really not.

Why do you protect shit journalism so? I certainly don't do so for shit psychology (which is probably most psychological "science"), and I theoretically have a tribal interest in doing so.