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Guys like Weinstein being scum and these women being less than innocent about the situations are not mutually exclusive options.
Guys like Weinstein being scum and these women being less than innocent about the situations are not mutually exclusive options.
Harvey Weinstein is fucking gross. Just reading through these stories of what people went through with him makes the skin crawl.
The main thing I would criticize all these women for is not for playing along with Weinstein's weird games but for keeping silent about what Weinstein was doing knowing full well many women will also be victims and they did it all for the sake of their careers.
But I also think any fault that could potentially be laid on her is entirely dispelled by the fact that Weinstein made it so that her livelihood depended on her promiscuity (and more).
I sympathize with this, but also know how difficult it is to come forward in these situations (for more reasons than just one's career; it also has to do with how victims believe they're perceived by others). As we're seeing, there's strength in solidarity, and it would have been great if that had been realized sooner.
C'mon now. If you're being sexually harassed at work, you report it and/or quit your job and get a new one. She clearly felt the massive wages were worth it on some level.
I'm not saying they're on the same ethical level as Weinstein but when it's that specific industry it's hard for me to rule out financial opportunism. It's especially fucked up because as everybody has said, there were always rumours about Weinstein, so it's not completely that these women were too scared to come out and expose him because they were whispering about it behind closed doors for years.
It doesn't matter. Weinstein made it part of the deal, and that's where the blame lies.
If you're being harassed at work, and it's a job you love, maybe you find ways to endure; but you shouldn't have to.
I really don't see how any of the onus is on Thompson in this case.
Hiding Jews in secret is very different from speaking out publicly.
The point is that men, by and large, don't have to play by the same kind of rules when it comes to financial opportunism. They've made the rules; that's just history.
If we allow the argument that women should just quit or speak up immediately when harassed, then we open the door to a mass evacuation of women from the workplace.
The only onus on her is that she chose money over being victimized. Other than that of course the blame is on that fat slug.
Agreed, one is an actual risk to your life, the other is a risk to your public persona and your bank account. Just saying.
These women are massively wealthy, they're not weak women trapped in a situation where it's either stand up or starve.
What?
And why should she be blamed for that?
Agreed. And one may end up yielding no repercussions at all, the other is guaranteed to yield repercussions. Just saying.
Starving isn't the issue. The issue is being permitted to operate freely in a marketplace, as supposedly the "free market" allows. Men enjoy all the opportunities of the marketplace, but women have to sell their bodies. Men aren't subjected to this. That's what I'm saying.
You're telling women the option is fuck or leave.
Really?
If someone is fucking with me at work and I do nothing because I'm being paid, I'm at least partially responsible for the victimization that occurs every time after the first time because I didn't leave. We're adults.
lmao.
Men sell their bodies every day when they work extremely laborious jobs and how many workplace deaths did it take before workplace safety even became a major workers' rights issue? Don't give me that body shit, yes women are objectified as trophies but men are objectified as tools and have been since the very start.
No, I'm telling women their options are fuck, get fucked, expose them or leave. TBH the option I'd suggest is a swift kick to the balls and then shove a can of pepper spray up his fat ass.
If you’re an adult then you should be able to cognize the dynamics of the situation.
Wow, what a fucking lame equivocation.
Ha.
Whomstdve thunkedeth it?
Pro-free speech right-wingers are triggered by the kneeling and are now burning their Nike gear, pro-workers' rights left-wingers are going out and buying overpriced massproduced-by-Indonesian-slave-labour Nike gear to oppose the right.