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[CiG]

There's a difference between "victim culture" and being an actual victim.

Of course the kids are innocent. Wearing that hat is a political act, I agree, and it's not the reactions of the Black Israelites and Nathan Phillips that make those kids victims. If that hat generates verbal conflict that's reasonable. What they're victims of is the media who drummed up hate mobs and literal lies that have victimized those kids.

If kids wore "BlackLivesMatter" shirts to a political event, nobody would be justifying this behaviour from the media. Kids are getting death threats from faggots on twitter who pretend to be the paragons of virtue and ethics.

The Black Israelites were offensive and demeaning, and I despise that kind of rhetoric. Coincidentally, a lot of what they say overlaps with the kind of rhetoric you hear from far-right asses like Westboro Baptists.

Agreed. Except every coward has a Westboro joke up their sleeve or some criticism for them they'll happily give, whereas Nathan Phillips actually said he walked up to the kids and drummed and chanted in their faces IN DEFENCE of the Black Israelites lmao.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I'm willing to say that their lives are being significantly directed by the shitty bubble they live in

oh the irony in you actually saying something like this.

AMMMAAAYYYYZZZIN

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

And of course those kids were innocent. They have EVERY right to wear those hats. And no one should get in their faces and start harassing them because of it. That kid handled it like a class act imo.

"i dont like Trump so i find that hat offensive" is ridiculous and anyone that brings that up as a reason to justify what that fake "vietnam vet" did is just showcasing that they dont have the ability to look at this without bias . Imagine if i went up to every person who had an obama or "Im with Her" sticker on their cars and started harassing them.

all it is is the left trying to shut down, demonize and silence anyone that supports Trump

 

[CiG]

The most interesting part of this whole thing for me is that not only did the media prove that it has the power to potentially destroy lives, but that it will happily do so, even to kids, if it feels like a political K.O. for them.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

.. i've been saying that for a while now. The late great Andrew Breitbart brought that to my attention yeeeaaars ago.

 

[Einherjar86]

If you're making a political statement, then you're not innocent. That is all.

 

[CiG]

I don't think I've ever seen such a blatantly false reading of an event, coupled with such a vitriolic treatment of a kid, with such an overwhelming debunking of a story and such a weaselly attempt to apologize (yet still failing to do so), in my lifetime. Other examples had one or two elements, but not all of them at once.

If you're making a political statement, then you're not innocent. That is all.

Guilt of wearing a political piece of clothing justifies what exactly?

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

If you're making a political statement, then you're not innocent. That is all.

sad.

Sad AND pathetic. People like you are destroying this country.

 

[Einherjar86]

sad.

Sad AND pathetic. People like you are destroying this country.

I feel the same way about you.

Guilt of wearing a political piece of clothing justifies what exactly?

It justifies people calling you out.

 

[CiG]

It justifies people calling you out.

Generic. Does "calling you out" include racial abuse, being told to go back to Europe, being told that "your president is a homosexual," sent death threats, family harassment, Twitter socialites talking about how you should be killed or hurt, media smears, petitions for expulsion etc etc?

Stop being a cuck your whole life and tell me exactly how much punishment these kids deserve because they're guilty of wearing a hat that supports the current President of your country.

 

[Einherjar86]

Generic. Does "calling you out" include racial abuse, being told to go back to Europe, being told that "your president is a homosexual," sent death threats, family harassment, Twitter socialites talking about how you should be killed or hurt, media smears, petitions for expulsion etc etc?

No, not at all. It includes post-media fallout of people saying that the MAGA hat-wearing kids aren't innocent and played a part in all this. Like BO and I are doing now. They aren't innocent. They went to a pro-life rally and then found themselves in an unfortunate situation in which some of them mocked a Native American (not the smiling kid, but others) and didn't remove themselves from a social media firestorm. There's no innocence here.

Stop being a cuck your whole life and tell me exactly how much punishment these kids deserve because they're guilty of wearing a hat that supports the current President of your country.

They don't deserve anything beyond the kinds of conversations we're having now.

And learn a new word.

 

[CiG]

No, not at all. It includes post-media fallout of people saying that the MAGA hat-wearing kids aren't innocent and played a part in all this. Like BO and I are doing now. They aren't innocent. They went to a pro-life rally and then found themselves in an unfortunate situation in which some of them mocked a Native American (not the smiling kid, but others) and didn't remove themselves from a social media firestorm. There's no innocence here.

How was Nathan Phillips mocked by the kids?

They don't deserve anything beyond the kinds of conversations we're having now.

Only conversation I'm having is one in which the media is dogshit, Nathan Phillips is a lying activist cunt, the Black Israelites are the villains who nobody is really talking about and a kid is being treated like the spawn of Satan because he smirked at a retard drumming and chanting in his face for no reason, who then went ahead and actually played the victim in an event where he wasn't even close to being one.

And learn a new word.

Okay, soyboi.

 

[The Ozzman]

I can't wait for Deron to come in and mass delete shit twice in one week

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... im surprised you didn't tag him like you usually do

 

[Einherjar86]

How was Nathan Phillips mocked by the kids?

The video shows several boys swaying and jumping back and forth mockingly to the beat of his drumming. It's pretty clear they're disrespecting what he's doing.

Only conversation I'm having is one in which the media is dogshit, Nathan Phillips is a lying activist cunt, the Black Israelites are the villains who nobody is really talking about and a kid is being treated like the spawn of Satan because he smirked at a retard drumming and chanting in his face for no reason, who then went ahead and actually played the victim in an event where he wasn't even close to being one.

And I'm having a different conversation. I think those kids should be part of a larger discourse if they want to wear those hats.

 

[EternalMetal]

Kids are getting death threats from faggots on twitter who pretend to be the paragons of virtue and ethics.

I literally loled at this. The irony is straight up overwhelming that I cant help but laugh.

No, not at all. It includes post-media fallout of people saying that the MAGA hat-wearing kids aren't innocent and played a part in all this. Like BO and I are doing now. They aren't innocent. They went to a pro-life rally and then found themselves in an unfortunate situation in which some of them mocked a Native American (not the smiling kid, but others) and didn't remove themselves from a social media firestorm. There's no innocence here.

I think the difference is that the kids are still kids. Two groups of grown-ass men fighting a 3 way battle with a group of high school kids. It may be all political, but in this case the adults acted no better than the kids. Id argue worse, but because the kid's are right-wing MAGA clan they are automatically the perpetrators. The only reason why they mocked the Native American guy is because he came up to them beating his fucking drum. His harassment wasn't unprovoked. He knew what he was doing.

 

[CiG]

The video shows several boys swaying and jumping back and forth mockingly to the beat of his drumming. It's pretty clear they're disrespecting what he's doing.

Let's assume you're correct, exactly what is it he's doing that they're disrespecting?

And I'm having a different conversation. I think those kids should be part of a larger discourse if they want to wear those hats.

The hats themselves are pretty irrelevant. A red hat with a campaign slogan on it, they've existed forever in different forms. More important discourse is why the media felt the need to dehumanize kids so fanatically, when all they are is generic supporters of a current president.

 

[Einherjar86]

I think the difference is that the kids are still kids. Two groups of grown-ass men fighting a 3 way battle with a group of high school kids. It may be all political, but in this case the adults acted no better than the kids. Id argue worse, but because the kid's are right-wing MAGA clan they are automatically the perpetrators. The only reason why they mocked the Native American guy is because he came up to them beating his fucking drum. His harassment wasn't unprovoked. He knew what he was doing.

I think you’re right, and I’m not saying the kids should be blamed for what happened, or that the toxicity of the situation is on them. Clearly the Black Israelites were being the most vocally disrespectful, and they deserve to be fucking eviscerated. (I can’t stand that kind of homophobic, fire and brimstone bullshit)

One could argue—and I wouldn’t disagree—that the parents of these kids knew they’d potentially become political props in some overblown media event. And then those parents leap on the misrepresentation when it inevitably happens. That’s a paranoid perspective, which is why I’m not going to say that’s what happened. The baseline point, for me, is that they wore their hats. It’s their right to wear them, but wearing them invites criticism. They could have removed them before wading into a confrontation between the Native Americans and Black Israelites, but they didn’t. They knew they’d provoke a response, and they did. And now they’re reaping the social reward.

 

[CiG]

Those damn kids knew that the adults wouldn't be able to stop themselves, it's their fault for not being more like adults.....

 

[Einherjar86]

Uh huh yep right...