If Mort Divine ruled the world

[The Ozzman]

I can't wait for Deron to come in and mass delete shit twice in one week

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... im surprised you didn't tag him like you usually do

 

[Einherjar86]

How was Nathan Phillips mocked by the kids?

The video shows several boys swaying and jumping back and forth mockingly to the beat of his drumming. It's pretty clear they're disrespecting what he's doing.

Only conversation I'm having is one in which the media is dogshit, Nathan Phillips is a lying activist cunt, the Black Israelites are the villains who nobody is really talking about and a kid is being treated like the spawn of Satan because he smirked at a retard drumming and chanting in his face for no reason, who then went ahead and actually played the victim in an event where he wasn't even close to being one.

And I'm having a different conversation. I think those kids should be part of a larger discourse if they want to wear those hats.

 

[EternalMetal]

Kids are getting death threats from faggots on twitter who pretend to be the paragons of virtue and ethics.

I literally loled at this. The irony is straight up overwhelming that I cant help but laugh.

No, not at all. It includes post-media fallout of people saying that the MAGA hat-wearing kids aren't innocent and played a part in all this. Like BO and I are doing now. They aren't innocent. They went to a pro-life rally and then found themselves in an unfortunate situation in which some of them mocked a Native American (not the smiling kid, but others) and didn't remove themselves from a social media firestorm. There's no innocence here.

I think the difference is that the kids are still kids. Two groups of grown-ass men fighting a 3 way battle with a group of high school kids. It may be all political, but in this case the adults acted no better than the kids. Id argue worse, but because the kid's are right-wing MAGA clan they are automatically the perpetrators. The only reason why they mocked the Native American guy is because he came up to them beating his fucking drum. His harassment wasn't unprovoked. He knew what he was doing.

 

[CiG]

The video shows several boys swaying and jumping back and forth mockingly to the beat of his drumming. It's pretty clear they're disrespecting what he's doing.

Let's assume you're correct, exactly what is it he's doing that they're disrespecting?

And I'm having a different conversation. I think those kids should be part of a larger discourse if they want to wear those hats.

The hats themselves are pretty irrelevant. A red hat with a campaign slogan on it, they've existed forever in different forms. More important discourse is why the media felt the need to dehumanize kids so fanatically, when all they are is generic supporters of a current president.

 

[Einherjar86]

I think the difference is that the kids are still kids. Two groups of grown-ass men fighting a 3 way battle with a group of high school kids. It may be all political, but in this case the adults acted no better than the kids. Id argue worse, but because the kid's are right-wing MAGA clan they are automatically the perpetrators. The only reason why they mocked the Native American guy is because he came up to them beating his fucking drum. His harassment wasn't unprovoked. He knew what he was doing.

I think you’re right, and I’m not saying the kids should be blamed for what happened, or that the toxicity of the situation is on them. Clearly the Black Israelites were being the most vocally disrespectful, and they deserve to be fucking eviscerated. (I can’t stand that kind of homophobic, fire and brimstone bullshit)

One could argue—and I wouldn’t disagree—that the parents of these kids knew they’d potentially become political props in some overblown media event. And then those parents leap on the misrepresentation when it inevitably happens. That’s a paranoid perspective, which is why I’m not going to say that’s what happened. The baseline point, for me, is that they wore their hats. It’s their right to wear them, but wearing them invites criticism. They could have removed them before wading into a confrontation between the Native Americans and Black Israelites, but they didn’t. They knew they’d provoke a response, and they did. And now they’re reaping the social reward.

 

[CiG]

Those damn kids knew that the adults wouldn't be able to stop themselves, it's their fault for not being more like adults.....

 

[Einherjar86]

Uh huh yep right...

 

[CiG]

You haven't answered my question; exactly what is it he was doing that they're disrespecting?

 

[viewerfromnihil]

what an idiot. Ashkenazis are NOT from the Caucasus. We're mountain men, you guys are basically sand dwellers.

Not that I would expect you read books or anything, but there was a debate for quite a while on this. Anti-Semites pegged them as descending from the Khazar region, so I figured somebody might have whispered it into your butthole at some point.

Where did you get the idea that I'm Jewish anyways?

Mort fetish? I just said lately he has a habit of jumping in and out of a thread with a snide remark. There's no fetish to find curious you weirdo lol.



Your point is that because I defended kids slandered by the media and the left I'm going against my opinion that activism is shit? I mean... okay.

"Mort fetish" because you guys literally can't get him out of your minds. He's your guys' object of ire, but he's almost never actually there when called out. I'd say, then, that he's really your object of desire, which you all have disguised as ire to conceal your raging boners for him.


My point was to get a rise out of you. It's not hard to do when you always play contrarian for the side with questionable intent. You're not as bad as Mr. Antifa-pants, I will admit.

 

[CiG]

"Mort fetish" because you guys literally can't get him out of your minds. He's your guys' object of ire, but he's almost never actually there when called out. I'd say, then, that he's really your object of desire, which you all have disguised as ire to conceal your raging boners for him.

You're over-exaggerating to make your shitty joke. Speaking for myself anyway, I don't mention him that much and when I do it's to reference his hit-and-run commenting which, surprise surprise, implies that he doesn't stick around to address what is said about him. That's the nature of a drive-by, you drive on by, you don't stick around. Try to keep up with the context of what is said.

My point was to get a rise out of you. It's not hard to do when you always play contrarian for the side with questionable intent. You're not as bad as Mr. Antifa-pants, I will admit.

Wasn't really a rise, I just felt the need to explain it to you.

Also it's actually you playing contrarian for the side with questionable intent considering the kids have been completely proven to have done nothing wrong, so much so that media companies are apologizing and lefty journalists are going on Joe Rogan whining about what has gone wrong with journalism when we're so quick to jump on a story blah blah. Sticking with the side continuing to desperately imply the kids are guilty of something, which places you on the side of the Black Israelites and Nathan Phillips who did what he did to defend them, is the literal definition of being a contrarian for the side with questionable intent.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

You're over-exaggerating to make your shitty joke. Speaking for myself anyway, I don't mention him that much and when I do it's to reference his hit-and-run commenting which, surprise surprise, implies that he doesn't stick around to address what is said about him. That's the nature of a drive-by, you drive on by, you don't stick around. Try to keep up with the context of what is said.



Wasn't really a rise, I just felt the need to explain it to you.

Also it's actually you playing contrarian for the side with questionable intent considering the kids have been completely proven to have done nothing wrong, so much so that media companies are apologizing and lefty journalists are going on Joe Rogan whining about what has gone wrong with journalism when we're so quick to jump on a story blah blah. Sticking with the side continuing to desperately imply the kids are guilty of something, which places you on the side of the Black Israelites and Nathan Phillips who did what he did to defend them, is the literal definition of being a contrarian for the side with questionable intent.

I'm not, but I've got better things to do than run searches on the number of times you guys mention Mort out of the blue.


Questionable intent is putting MAGA hats on your teenage children and shipping them from bumfuck Kentucky to a pro-life protest in DC. At least the Black Israelites don't lie about bigots.

 

[CiG]

I'm not, but I've got better things to do than run searches on the number of times you guys mention Mort out of the blue.

Don't lump me in with others.

Here is every time I mentioned his name.

Questionable intent is putting MAGA hats on your teenage children and shipping them from bumfuck Kentucky to a pro-life protest in DC. At least the Black Israelites don't lie about bigots.

Disagree. Nothing questionable about it. Questionable is the two teachers in here having such bizarre hatred for kids who did nothing beyond wear a political hat. Anyway, you're the contrarian because you're doing this in the face of counter-evidence debunking the official narrative.

Stick to your shit drive-by memes.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

lmao what a dumb jew. We should just refer to you as Dew from now on

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Disagree. Nothing questionable about it. Questionable is the two teachers in here having such bizarre hatred for kids who did nothing beyond wear a political hat. Anyway, you're the contrarian because you're doing this in the face of counter-evidence debunking the official narrative.

Stick to your shit drive-by memes.

Great "I know you are, but what am I" retort.

 

[CiG]

Great "I know you are, but what am I" retort.

Great avoidance of what was actually said.

 

[The Ozzman]

lol at Park Hills being 'bumfuck' Kentucky when BO is literally from 'bumfuck' USA. Park Hills is a very wealthy part of the tri-state area even as 'backwoods' as people seem to think Greater Cincinnati is.

 

[Einherjar86]

Questionable is the two teachers in here having such bizarre hatred for kids who did nothing beyond wear a political hat.

"Hatred" is a bit harsh. I have family members with "Trump nation" magnets on their fridges, but I don't hate them. I also definitely don't feel anything close to hatred for the Covington students.

They were there at a pro-life rally and wandered over to an area where the Indigenous Peoples' march was being held (of course, this was where they were supposed to get picked up). Their political paraphernalia involves them in the situation whether they said or did anything or not. This is what I mean by saying they're not innocent. They're not guilty of anything per se, but they're not neutral actors either. They have to learn that, and maybe this is the way they learn it.

I just find the whole thing fascinating--how the backlash tries to paint the kids as innocent and Nathan Phillips as a "lying cunt" (I think these were your words). If you really want to stick to the language used, he didn't lie about anything (as far as anyone knows). He appears to have called himself a "Vietnam times vet" or something to that effect, meaning he served around the time of the Vietnam War. Calling oneself a vet doesn't necessarily mean that one saw combat or was deployed. People just make the assumption that service = combat. He still served in the military.

While it’s true that a number of January 2019 accounts from national news outlets incorrectly labeled Phillips as a “Vietnam veteran,” the use of that label in those reports did not, as far as we can tell, originate with Phillips himself. The Native American activist told reporters in January 2019 that he was a “Vietnam-times” or “Vietnam-era” veteran, meaning that he was an active member of the armed services during the time of U.S. military involvement in Vietnam (not that he had been deployed to Vietnam during that period).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nathan-phillips-vietnam-veteran/

I'm not sure this qualifies him as a "lying cunt."

You haven't answered my question; exactly what is it he was doing that they're disrespecting?

Exactly what he's doing: beating a drum and chanting.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

lol at Park Hills being 'bumfuck' Kentucky when BO is literally from 'bumfuck' USA. Park Hills is a very wealthy part of the tri-state area even as 'backwoods' as people seem to think Greater Cincinnati is.

It was obvious from the get-go that these kids were privileged little pricks who weren't afraid to flaunt their privilege like the little assholes they've been raised to become. "Bumfuck" was not used as a designation to mean a lack of rich dicks wearing boat shoes and polo shirts in gated communities. If they were from my poor-ass region of birth, they'd be wearing MAGA hats, but they wouldn't have the privilege to chant "Build the Wall" at a bunch of bigot black nationalists without fear of reprisal in one of the most expensive cities in the world, and they certainly wouldn't have the money to become players in the spin game of today's culture wars.

edit: I'll add, though, that the tri-city area around Greater Cincinnati is a perfectly nice area in the country to live in; I have no interest in it, however, nor do I have interest in the shit politics of Indiana and Kentucky. Ohio is bad enough in that respect.

 

[The Ozzman]

I'll add, though, that the tri-city area around Greater Cincinnati is a perfectly nice area in the country to live in; I have no interest in it, however, nor do I have interest in the shit politics of Indiana and Kentucky. Ohio is bad enough in that respect.

Did you mean 'tri-state'? I'm curious what you meant by 'tri-city'

And yeah, the politics in Cincinnati are bad enough. I won't disagree with you at least as far as that goes.