If Mort Divine ruled the world

[viewerfromnihil]

You're over-exaggerating to make your shitty joke. Speaking for myself anyway, I don't mention him that much and when I do it's to reference his hit-and-run commenting which, surprise surprise, implies that he doesn't stick around to address what is said about him. That's the nature of a drive-by, you drive on by, you don't stick around. Try to keep up with the context of what is said.



Wasn't really a rise, I just felt the need to explain it to you.

Also it's actually you playing contrarian for the side with questionable intent considering the kids have been completely proven to have done nothing wrong, so much so that media companies are apologizing and lefty journalists are going on Joe Rogan whining about what has gone wrong with journalism when we're so quick to jump on a story blah blah. Sticking with the side continuing to desperately imply the kids are guilty of something, which places you on the side of the Black Israelites and Nathan Phillips who did what he did to defend them, is the literal definition of being a contrarian for the side with questionable intent.

I'm not, but I've got better things to do than run searches on the number of times you guys mention Mort out of the blue.


Questionable intent is putting MAGA hats on your teenage children and shipping them from bumfuck Kentucky to a pro-life protest in DC. At least the Black Israelites don't lie about bigots.

 

[CiG]

I'm not, but I've got better things to do than run searches on the number of times you guys mention Mort out of the blue.

Don't lump me in with others.

Here is every time I mentioned his name.

Questionable intent is putting MAGA hats on your teenage children and shipping them from bumfuck Kentucky to a pro-life protest in DC. At least the Black Israelites don't lie about bigots.

Disagree. Nothing questionable about it. Questionable is the two teachers in here having such bizarre hatred for kids who did nothing beyond wear a political hat. Anyway, you're the contrarian because you're doing this in the face of counter-evidence debunking the official narrative.

Stick to your shit drive-by memes.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

lmao what a dumb jew. We should just refer to you as Dew from now on

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Disagree. Nothing questionable about it. Questionable is the two teachers in here having such bizarre hatred for kids who did nothing beyond wear a political hat. Anyway, you're the contrarian because you're doing this in the face of counter-evidence debunking the official narrative.

Stick to your shit drive-by memes.

Great "I know you are, but what am I" retort.

 

[CiG]

Great "I know you are, but what am I" retort.

Great avoidance of what was actually said.

 

[The Ozzman]

lol at Park Hills being 'bumfuck' Kentucky when BO is literally from 'bumfuck' USA. Park Hills is a very wealthy part of the tri-state area even as 'backwoods' as people seem to think Greater Cincinnati is.

 

[Einherjar86]

Questionable is the two teachers in here having such bizarre hatred for kids who did nothing beyond wear a political hat.

"Hatred" is a bit harsh. I have family members with "Trump nation" magnets on their fridges, but I don't hate them. I also definitely don't feel anything close to hatred for the Covington students.

They were there at a pro-life rally and wandered over to an area where the Indigenous Peoples' march was being held (of course, this was where they were supposed to get picked up). Their political paraphernalia involves them in the situation whether they said or did anything or not. This is what I mean by saying they're not innocent. They're not guilty of anything per se, but they're not neutral actors either. They have to learn that, and maybe this is the way they learn it.

I just find the whole thing fascinating--how the backlash tries to paint the kids as innocent and Nathan Phillips as a "lying cunt" (I think these were your words). If you really want to stick to the language used, he didn't lie about anything (as far as anyone knows). He appears to have called himself a "Vietnam times vet" or something to that effect, meaning he served around the time of the Vietnam War. Calling oneself a vet doesn't necessarily mean that one saw combat or was deployed. People just make the assumption that service = combat. He still served in the military.

While it’s true that a number of January 2019 accounts from national news outlets incorrectly labeled Phillips as a “Vietnam veteran,” the use of that label in those reports did not, as far as we can tell, originate with Phillips himself. The Native American activist told reporters in January 2019 that he was a “Vietnam-times” or “Vietnam-era” veteran, meaning that he was an active member of the armed services during the time of U.S. military involvement in Vietnam (not that he had been deployed to Vietnam during that period).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nathan-phillips-vietnam-veteran/

I'm not sure this qualifies him as a "lying cunt."

You haven't answered my question; exactly what is it he was doing that they're disrespecting?

Exactly what he's doing: beating a drum and chanting.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

lol at Park Hills being 'bumfuck' Kentucky when BO is literally from 'bumfuck' USA. Park Hills is a very wealthy part of the tri-state area even as 'backwoods' as people seem to think Greater Cincinnati is.

It was obvious from the get-go that these kids were privileged little pricks who weren't afraid to flaunt their privilege like the little assholes they've been raised to become. "Bumfuck" was not used as a designation to mean a lack of rich dicks wearing boat shoes and polo shirts in gated communities. If they were from my poor-ass region of birth, they'd be wearing MAGA hats, but they wouldn't have the privilege to chant "Build the Wall" at a bunch of bigot black nationalists without fear of reprisal in one of the most expensive cities in the world, and they certainly wouldn't have the money to become players in the spin game of today's culture wars.

edit: I'll add, though, that the tri-city area around Greater Cincinnati is a perfectly nice area in the country to live in; I have no interest in it, however, nor do I have interest in the shit politics of Indiana and Kentucky. Ohio is bad enough in that respect.

 

[The Ozzman]

I'll add, though, that the tri-city area around Greater Cincinnati is a perfectly nice area in the country to live in; I have no interest in it, however, nor do I have interest in the shit politics of Indiana and Kentucky. Ohio is bad enough in that respect.

Did you mean 'tri-state'? I'm curious what you meant by 'tri-city'

And yeah, the politics in Cincinnati are bad enough. I won't disagree with you at least as far as that goes.

 

[EternalMetal]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nathan-phillips-vietnam-veteran/

I'm not sure this qualifies him as a "lying cunt."

So he gets downgraded from "lying cunt" to "deceptive cunt". So what? The Vietnam war had nothing to do with his service, he is just mentioning it for sympathy points.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Did you mean 'tri-state'? I'm curious what you meant by 'tri-city'

And yeah, the politics in Cincinnati are bad enough. I won't disagree with you at least as far as that goes.

I meant tri-state, but tri-city always pops in my head for whatever reason. I think that has to do with the map visualization of Cincinatti-Indianapolis-Louisville being relatively near each other.

 

[Einherjar86]

So he gets downgraded from "lying cunt" to "deceptive cunt". So what? The Vietnam war had nothing to do with his service, he is just mentioning it for sympathy points.

Agreed, he probably is; but that's speculation on our part. We can't know his intentions, but we're allowing ourselves a degree of speculation due to the circumstances.

Likewise, I think we can allow ourselves a degree of speculation when it comes to what the Covington students were doing. They weren't innocent bystanders or passive observers. They knew the impact of their presence.

The misleading media coverage of the event has resulted in a disproportionate backlash in which the right is trying to absolve these kids of any and all consequences their actions might have had. This is how the right-as-perpetual-underdog strategy works.

 

[The Ozzman]

I meant tri-state, but tri-city always pops in my head for whatever reason. I think that has to do with the map visualization of Cincinatti-Indianapolis-Louisville being relatively near each other.

Yeah, one good thing is I can go to shows and not have to drive more than 2 hours each way.

 

[EternalMetal]

Agreed, he probably is; but that's speculation on our part. We can't know his intentions, but we're allowing ourselves a degree of speculation due to the circumstances.

Ok, it may be 'speculation', but really, there is a reason why he doesnt just call himself a veteran. He always has to throw Vietnam into it. Id be willing to bet my left nut that he does it because there is a large portion of people who will allow himself more legitimacy than a vet during peacetime.

Likewise, I think we can allow ourselves a degree of speculation when it comes to what the Covington students were doing. They weren't innocent bystanders or passive observers. They knew the impact of their presence.

The misleading media coverage of the event has resulted in a disproportionate backlash in which the right is trying to absolve these kids of any and all consequences their actions might have had. This is how the right-as-perpetual-underdog strategy works.

You mean a meaningless shouting match in which nobody was even injured? It was a protest. People said shit. So what? Most other newsworthy protests have involved violence and/or vandalism. This one had none of that. The reason why this was blown out of proportion is because it was initially speculated that kids were mocking a Native American guy and harassing him unprovoked like they were some racist mongrels. This was not the case. The kids were being harassed by those black hebrews and shit just got out of hand. I see some conflicting viewpoints on the matter, but remember that Nathan Phillips is a seasoned activist and is taking this as an opportunity to platform his cause. I saw some kids in the video playing along with, and perhaps mocking the Native American song, but im willing to bet that this was just an emotional response to the heat of the moment rather than an act of bigotry. Im not sure a reliable narrator exists for this story, so maybe the kids said racist things, maybe they didnt. Other than school chants and some interaction with the Native American song, I saw nothing of the sort. The real assholes in this situation (the black hebrews) are being completely ignored. But the left wont damn them because they are black.

 

[Einherjar86]

I’ll damn them. They were being fucking assholes.

And they’re not being completely ignored. Dark recently posted a great piece on the Atlantic that sets the record straight.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

"They knew the impact of being white in a place where non-white people were"

 

[Einherjar86]

"They knew the impact of being white in a place where non-white people were"

Such an illiterate.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Please describe the impact of their presence, putting aside the skin color of the parties involved. But at this point you're not just illiterate but instead blind if you watched the full video and think the high school kids wandered over to the Native's march, and not the other way around.

 

[Einherjar86]

Please describe the impact of their presence, putting aside the skin color of the parties involved.

I emphasized their clothing, not the color of their skin. The hats were what people reacted to, not that they were white. I never said or insinuated that the problem was their skin color.

But at this point you're not just illiterate but instead blind if you watched the full video and think the high school kids wandered over to the Native's march, and not the other way around.

The Indigenous People's march was already taking place on the mall before the cameras started filming. The kids wandered over from where the pro-life rally was taking place, which was several blocks away.

Again, they were heading to the meeting spot to be picked up, and noticed the exchanges taking place between the Black Israelites and Native Americans. It was, without a doubt, the Black Israelites who instigated and escalated matters. All I'm saying is the kids couldn't not have known the impact their paraphernalia would have had.

 

[Dak]

The funny thing is the pro-life rally was pretty damn large and received something akin to a blackout in coverage, other than being referenced in relation to the super-racist-catholic-proto-Kavanaughs.