If Mort Divine ruled the world

[CiG]

Not at all. I despise some of my elders.

I don't think they had many good options when it came to Phillips. The best would have been to dissolve and depart, but they had to catch a bus.

But seriously, "antagonistic chant and drumming"? You found it antagonistic? What video are you watching?

It's at least as antagonistic as a smirk, and it was the catalyst of the smirk in the first place.

It's antagonistic because if someone bangs a drum and chants in a language you don't understand, in your face, in that situation, and then later the chanting spastic admits he confronted them in defence of the Black Israelites, what was it but antagonistic?

The students were put in a difficult place, and they didn't handle themselves well. I'm not saying they're at fault for what happened, but they are responsible for how they chose to act.

I disagree. They laughed and smirked and danced around in the middle of being told to go back to Europe, how Trump is a homo, how fellow black students were called ni**ers, how it was said that they will steal livers or some weird shit, some fucking retarded activist in his 60's banging a drum and chanting a protest song at them in a different language. I doubt many people would have handled that situation any better than they did.

"But he came toward us" isn't a defensible position. Phillips didn't attack or verbally assault them, and his drumming definitely "antagonistic."

Neither did they, and nothing they did was antagonistic or disrespectful, unless you're suggesting there be no standard for what does or doesn't get respect?

If the students did in fact find Phillips's drumming antagonistic, it might be because they'd never met a Native American in their life.

I'm sure that's it, and not because he walked over to them and started doing it randomly, for reasons later revealed to be in opposition to the students.

The hats started a conversation. I never said that race didn't come into play later. I was identifying their hats as a communicative act in itself, and it invited criticism.

No, the people reacting to the hats started the conversation.

This is a fair question. If they're going to D.C. and marching in a pro-life rally, then I think it's fair to assume they understand the impact of their actions.

That, or they're the pawns of their parents.

You apply more nefarious intentions to the parents of the kids than anybody actually involved. Hilarious bias.

Speak for yourself, Mr. "antagonism."

Nathan Phillips admitted that he walked to the kids and started drumming and chanting because he felt the kids were being hateful and preying on the Black Israelites, therefore what he did fits perfectly into the definition of being antagonistic.

 

[Einherjar86]

It's at least as antagonistic as a smirk, and it was the catalyst of the smirk in the first place.

It's antagonistic because if someone bangs a drum and chants in a language you don't understand, in your face, in that situation, and then later the chanting spastic admits he confronted them in defence of the Black Israelites, what was it but antagonistic?

It could be a number of other things. You're choosing to see it as antagonistic.

They laughed and smirked and danced around in the middle of being told to go back to Europe, how Trump is a homo, how fellow black students were called ni**ers, how it was said that they will steal livers or some weird shit, some fucking retarded activist in his 60's banging a drum and chanting a protest song at them in a different language. I doubt many people would have handled that situation any better than they did.

So do I. But being the best at something doesn't mean you don't deserve criticism.

Neither did they, and nothing they did was antagonistic or disrespectful, unless you're suggesting there be no standard for what does or doesn't get respect?

I don't think they were antagonistic. You're caught all up on this idea of antagonism, and I think it derives from your need to assign blame.

I'm sure that's it, and not because he walked over to them and started doing it randomly, for reasons later revealed to be in opposition to the students.

As you so delicately put it, he was a "toothless military refrigerator repairman" banging a drum. I don't buy that a large group of young, athletic boys felt antagonized.

No, the people reacting to the hats started the conversation.

Yes, absolutely. I only meant that a hat with a political motto is a statement of sorts.

You apply more nefarious intentions to the parents of the kids than anybody actually involved. Hilarious bias.

It was pure speculation. We're all speculating. You think the situation was "antagonistic," but that's an interpretation--not a fact.

Nathan Phillips admitted that he walked to the kids and started drumming and chanting because he felt the kids were being hateful and preying on the Black Israelites, therefore what he did fits perfectly into the definition of being antagonistic.

If you take Phillips at his word, you could argue that what he was doing was the opposite of antagonistic--that he was trying to pacify things.

 

[CiG]

It could be a number of other things. You're choosing to see it as antagonistic.

Nathan Phillips framed it as antagonistic in his post-event interview.

I don't think they were antagonistic. You're caught all up on this idea of antagonism, and I think it derives from your need to assign blame.

Is it antagonistic to be disrespectful in a volatile situation?

As you so delicately put it, he was a "toothless military refrigerator repairman" banging a drum. I don't buy that a large group of young, athletic boys felt antagonized.

There are degrees of antagonism and you know it. It doesn't go from 0 to riot.

It was pure speculation. We're all speculating. You think the situation was "antagonistic," but that's an interpretation--not a fact.

You're doing mental gymnastics to avoid seeing what happened, and instead prefer to drill down into details irrelevant to the matter at hand. The fact is that Nathan Phillips said he went with certain intentions over to the boys and thus he admits his motives were antagonistic.

If you take Phillips at his word, you could argue that what he was doing was the opposite of antagonistic--that he was trying to pacify things.

lol.

 

[Einherjar86]

lol indeed mate.

 

[CiG]

Never seen you with such a weak position on a topic before. Can't believe you ascribe disrespect to those kids as if what Nathan did was deserving of respect from them in the first place. Nathan himself admits he was antagonistic (he was literally opposing the kids with a chant and drumming) and here you are obfuscating like it's your job.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

good 'ole Ein and his well thought out viewpoints and responses

 

[Einherjar86]

Never seen you with such a weak position on a topic before. Can't believe you ascribe disrespect to those kids as if what Nathan did was deserving of respect from them in the first place. Nathan himself admits he was antagonistic (he was literally opposing the kids with a chant and drumming) and here you are obfuscating like it's your job.

You're being obtuse.

 

[CiG]

You're being obtuse.

I disagree. Keep ignoring reality as the entire media sphere around you walks back their narrative.

 

[Einherjar86]

They should walk it back.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Einherjar sucks off tenured faculty for the privilege to write neo-post-queerfeminist essays about the merits of N. K. Jemisin's works on stipend, he knows something about paying respect.

 

[The Ozzman]

 

[Dak]

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/neanderthal-spears-threw-pretty-well/581218/



Wonder why academics thought thought they didn't have that range? Maybe the pencilarmed were the ones trying to throw them?

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/01/neanderthal-spears-threw-pretty-well/581218/



Wonder why academics thought thought they didn't have that range? Maybe the pencilarmed were the ones trying to throw them?

i didn't read far enough to get to the funny part
might read the whole article tmrw

 

[arg]

 

[CiG]

What the fuck?

 

[viewerfromnihil]

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What the fuck?

Two things:

I'll admit at the outset that I didn't know exactly what the NPC meme or its predecessors and variants stood for, but it was pretty obvious to me from the first time I saw it posted here that it was a comforting symbol of solidarity among the lonely incel, true-cuck internet community intent on lashing out against the mainstream and establishment to instill in themselves a sense of belonging in the world and to fill the hole that the lack of social lives and sexlessness has bore into their souls. That said, I hardly see how Bill Maher fits this narrative.

Secondly, I gotta say one of the things I really hate about the decentralization of media spurred by the internet is how these nobody cunts like her and Tomi Lahren somehow become somebodies purely out of the fact that they 1) have cunts 2) are at least 6s out of 10s on the neck-beard ranking system 3) and parrot fringe talking points. At least give me some qualifications or deeds of merit.

 

[CiG]

Qualifications like being an "edgy 90's comedian" for example.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Qualifications like being an "edgy 90's comedian" for example.

Or, more broadly, being of Jewish ethnicity

 

[CiG]

I'll admit at the outset that I didn't know exactly what the NPC meme or its predecessors and variants stood for, but it was pretty obvious to me from the first time I saw it posted here that it was a comforting symbol of solidarity among the lonely incel, true-cuck internet community intent on lashing out against the mainstream and establishment to instill in themselves a sense of belonging in the world and to fill the hole that the lack of social lives and sexlessness has bore into their souls. That said, I hardly see how Bill Maher fits this narrative.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Qualifications like being an "edgy 90's comedian" for example.

Cuck

edit: I'll give you a response to your actual point when I'm on a computer. You make one, but it's a false equivalency.

Or, more broadly, being of Jewish ethnicity

Incel