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I agree with the sentiment that under no circumstances should Baldwin be censored, but that's not the problem here. The problem isn't whether they should be read; it's whether or not n----- should be enunciated--note, enunciated, not communicated-- by non-black students/professors in a classroom discussion involving direct quotes from the text. There is a quandary on multiple levels here. I got into debate with my girlfriend about this last night that was a bit more heated than I would have preferred, in part because Europeans have quite a different relationship (though increasingly similar) to race in society, culture, and academia, or at least they view it differently as it is more often an abstract affair than it is in the United States, and, admittedly, because our discussion wasn't in English and she judged my lack of precision in articulating my argument as calling her racist. I mention this latter point because it seems to generally be the sticking points of these debates where both sides get derailed and no progress is made.

The first is the practical consideration from the perspective of a white instructor, which is also the theme of the article and Ein's post: does enunciating it serve the intended purpose of fostering a pedagogical environment? The question here is, what are we trying to do in the classroom? If it's to provoke thought, then the shock value attached to the word and resulting visceral feelings it invokes can't be overlooked. Best case scenario, imo, the minimal effect might be to that of the classroom door catching hard when closed. Is that a move in the right direction? If the intent is to confront students with the word, is there a net benefit that is going to result? Does a black student in the classroom need to confront him with it? Will that help him or her know what it's like to be confronted with something racist? I think that's where abstract considerations of the benefits of enunciating it get lost and lose any potential value when put in practice.

Like Ein, I've faced this problem, though in quite a different setting and personal orientation thereto, which most here are quite aware of. I'm typically the smart-ass in seminar discussions who has a quote and answer for every question posed. In such discussions, however, I backed mostly out at my Bachelor's institution, with the exception of asking follow-up questions to the professor or classmates. Enunciating n------ was, of course, out of the question in any case. I didn't want to be the smart-ass white-boy who just convinced half the class I was a dumb-ass racist. But, more so, from the perspective of a student in a seminar, I saw the reason for me being there was to explore the text and learn more from it. I can elaborate in discussions on Heidegger my lived experience as Dasein, or on Nietzsche with the social construction of morality, etc., but can I elaborate on my lived experience of racism as a black man? No. Listening to my classmates did, on the other hand, provide me with insights which I otherwise wouldn't have heard.

The other consideration which comes to mind here, which wasn't raised in the article, is more of a philosophical one, and I'll be shorter here and leave it as an open question to you guys. The whole point of reading these texts and having classes such as these is to not only learn about these topics, but also to pay respect to them and to their purpose, i.e. intended audience and to what the text was intended to spur them to. As a white professor, does enunciating "n-----" in the sentence being quoted to students (with the foregoing in mind, of course) really pay respect to the text? I'll throw that out to you guys.

I just want to add that I feel bad for the professor in question and hope for his sake that this affair ends as undramatically for him as possible. He has, ironically, worked hard to make his place of work more inclusive for minority students. He made a mistake, and it's one that causes a lot more painful than a crappy argument or bad quote that found itself being published and harangued in the journals. This brings up the very solid question of, "why is the academic left jumping on him when they're doing little to counter far more consequential academic problems like the Dark Enlightenment or more pervasive, long-standing ideologies fundamentally cancerous to their world view like neoliberalism?," but that's a what-aboutism that misses the point here.
 
This teacher shouldn't be suspended,
Now a teacher getting caught saying it as a racial slur is something that you would have to suspend the teacher for
But what was actually happening was actually helping students learn something
 
As a white professor, does enunciating "n-----" in the sentence being quoted to students (with the foregoing in mind, of course) really pay respect to the text? I'll throw that out to you guys.

Obviously I'm just some pleb, but as someone who has read Baldwin and other black writers, I think censoring the text, censoring yourself while reading the text, or watering it down by replacing ni**er with "n-word" while reading the text is to pay disrespect to the man and his material. Whether or not enunciating the slur pays respect is one thing, I guess at a bare minimum it shows enough respect to actually read what the man wrote word for word, but for me the disrespect is obvious.

I don't see how race relations can ever improve while we wade around in this nebulous double-standard where some people can say ni**er and others can't say it in any context, not even while reading Baldwin to a class.
 
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Obviously I'm just some pleb, but as someone who has read Baldwin and other black writers, I think censoring the text, censoring yourself while reading the text, or watering it down by replacing ni**er with "n-word" while reading the text is to pay disrespect to the man and his material. Whether or not enunciating the slur pays respect is one thing, I guess at a bare minimum it shows enough respect to actually read what the man wrote word for word, but for me the disrespect is obvious.

As a scholar of literature, I have this reaction too, especially when it comes to writers I love. But I also can't help but have subsequent reactions to this reaction:

--does respect for Baldwin's work outweigh respect for the experiences of students in the class?
--would Baldwin have wanted me to reiterate the word? (more of a personal than intellectual question)
--Baldwin almost always puts the word in either quotation marks or italics when he writes it, and speaks of it circumspectly: why?
--does repeating the word, even in a professional and educational setting, perpetuate the white desire for it? (this is a psychological/sociological question, i.e. can we cordon off unwanted, socialized desires/impulses?)

There are others I'm sure, but these come to mind immediately.
 
This discussion of the n-word is getting weird because there's no black people here

This is like an all-white city-council arguing about what to do about Lincoln freeing the slaves
 
This discussion of the n-word is getting weird because there's no black people here

This is like an all-white city-council arguing about what to do about Lincoln freeing the slaves

There were a lot of black people heckling your foot-sucking at that bus stop.
 
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--does respect for Baldwin's work outweigh respect for the experiences of students in the class?

What of the respect for the intelligence and maturity of the students? If you break it down to the experiences of the students, doesn't that become so individualized to the point of impracticality? How can you possibly address each and every experience without grinding the lesson to a halt? What about black students who don't want Baldwin's words watered down by the teacher? Are their black experiences more or less valid than the ones who would rather the slur not be enunciated?

Can't really wrap my mind around the context of higher education and the position the students and teachers are in.

--would Baldwin have wanted me to reiterate the word? (more of a personal than intellectual question)

Did he expect only blacks to read his writing? Did he lack an understanding for words and how they relate in different contexts? I think there's some irony here that whites have done what they have done to blacks in America, and here they are now deciding whether Baldwin's words should be allowed to be read verbatim in a classroom, on top of that they're deciding this for black students out of fear of backlash. Teachers need to be braver than this is my gut feeling.

Surely it's the job of the teacher to make sure Baldwin isn't censored by the feelings of (black) students who are reacting out of a history of racism that caused Baldwin to write in the first place.

--Baldwin almost always puts the word in either quotation marks or italics when he writes it, and speaks of it circumspectly: why?

That's one for you to explain to me. :tickled:

--does repeating the word, even in a professional and educational setting, perpetuate the white desire for it? (this is a psychological/sociological question, i.e. can we cordon off unwanted, socialized desires/impulses?)

It probably does to some degree, just as any word that is considered unutterable is treated with fetish by those who say it when they can. This gets way too much into thought-crime levels of speculation though.