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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yale-f...-at-fraternity-events-ask-to-integrate-women/
I like this, instead of saying that women are lame, rather spin it and claim you're a great hero attempting to fix frat culture
"A fraternity party wasn't any of our first choice, but it was kind of the only choice for the first couple of months at school," McNeil said.
I like this, instead of saying that women are lame, rather spin it and claim you're a great hero attempting to fix frat culture
"A fraternity party wasn't any of our first choice, but it was kind of the only choice for the first couple of months at school," McNeil said.
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He's been saying similar stuff for a while now. I've mostly stopped paying attention to him, but not because of any objection I have to what he says in that video. I stopped paying attention because the vast majority of what he says is stuff he's already written about twenty years ago.
I completely understand the accusation he's highlighting, and I don't think that my knowledge or education means that I can tell those whom I identify as victims how to self-identify. That said, I maintain that there's a difference between talking about individual experiences and structural patterns/theories. It may not be the case that structural patterns and theories always correspond to individual experiences; in some cases, they may be directly opposed to experience and may even offend those who had the experiences. Furthermore, identifying structural patterns doesn't mean that those patterns can then be used to label or identify the individual experiences of those we claim to be affected by structural issues. Between individual experience and structural function lies a phase shift that warps every correlation we'd like to make. In some cases the correlations may hold and come through clearly; in others, they might look entirely counterintuitive.
I don't think this misalignment--if not contradiction--is cause for abandoning structural theories altogether, or even for significantly augmenting structural theories of disenfranchisement. To do so would be to commit the same kind of empiricist error that people make when they believe that getting contradictory experimental results means we need to abandon theoretical claims. When scientists get results--even repeated results--that refute theoretical premises, they don't throw the theory out altogether. Newtonian mechanics didn't become obsolete when Einstein published his theories of relativity, and are in fact still important for things like going to the Moon. Contradictory results mean that other theories can come into play that help us refine older ones. If anything, I'd say that the professed experiences of "victims" (however we apply this term) signal not the obsolescence of structural theories, but ways in which our understanding of structural effects can be sharpened.
It will almost certainly be the case that structural theorizing will never account for individual experience. Žižek's right to point out that academics need to be cautious in presuming their theories allow them to communication with those they identify as "victims."
I completely understand the accusation he's highlighting, and I don't think that my knowledge or education means that I can tell those whom I identify as victims how to self-identify. That said, I maintain that there's a difference between talking about individual experiences and structural patterns/theories. It may not be the case that structural patterns and theories always correspond to individual experiences; in some cases, they may be directly opposed to experience and may even offend those who had the experiences. Furthermore, identifying structural patterns doesn't mean that those patterns can then be used to label or identify the individual experiences of those we claim to be affected by structural issues. Between individual experience and structural function lies a phase shift that warps every correlation we'd like to make. In some cases the correlations may hold and come through clearly; in others, they might look entirely counterintuitive.
I don't think this misalignment--if not contradiction--is cause for abandoning structural theories altogether, or even for significantly augmenting structural theories of disenfranchisement. To do so would be to commit the same kind of empiricist error that people make when they believe that getting contradictory experimental results means we need to abandon theoretical claims. When scientists get results--even repeated results--that refute theoretical premises, they don't throw the theory out altogether. Newtonian mechanics didn't become obsolete when Einstein published his theories of relativity, and are in fact still important for things like going to the Moon. Contradictory results mean that other theories can come into play that help us refine older ones. If anything, I'd say that the professed experiences of "victims" (however we apply this term) signal not the obsolescence of structural theories, but ways in which our understanding of structural effects can be sharpened.
It will almost certainly be the case that structural theorizing will never account for individual experience. Žižek's right to point out that academics need to be cautious in presuming their theories allow them to communication with those they identify as "victims."
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Women should be able to join fraternities instead of just having the sororities throw parties, WTF happened to USA??https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yale-f...-at-fraternity-events-ask-to-integrate-women/
I like this, instead of saying that women are lame, rather spin it and claim you're a great hero attempting to fix frat culture
"A fraternity party wasn't any of our first choice, but it was kind of the only choice for the first couple of months at school," McNeil said.
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Yeah I was just watching a video about it. She walked up to him and said something like "if it's okay for Trump to grab pussies..." and grabbed his junk, and then admitted on camera that she sexually assaulted him and said "arrest me" haha. Embarrassing shit.
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... god what a dumb cunt. Kind of says a lot about where American society is at today. It's shameful tbh
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So, basically, some Trump-hating-feminist thinks it's okay to randomly grab a guy's junk just because he's wearing a MAGA-hat
Yeah, this is stupid
I normally don't like the people who are willing to wear MAGA-hats but that girl was just a dumbass
Yeah, this is stupid
I normally don't like the people who are willing to wear MAGA-hats but that girl was just a dumbass
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Beto O'Rourke: Tear down existing border walls - Washington Times
in other news
some crazy SJW people keep posting this pic on Facebook
in other news
some crazy SJW people keep posting this pic on Facebook
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Yeah, Shapiro runs into trouble as soon as he isn't talking about free speech.
On the Smollett thing:
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/1097145526292791296
On the Smollett thing:
https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/1097145526292791296
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