If Mort Divine ruled the world

[Einherjar86]

I'm offended by "a opinion."

 

[Dak]

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

Damm SJWs
I don't think this sign even existed until AFTER Obergefell
This is the bathroom door of the bar that I'm sitting in right now

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/maga-h...MiMkP6-Yc&ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=63950267

 

[rms]

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00611-1

By the end of the study period, 23% of men and 43% of women who had become parents had left full-time STEM employment. They either went part time, switched to non-STEM careers or left the workforce altogether. This compared to 16% of child-free men and 24% of child-free women. The team controlled for potential confounding differences between people with and without children.

Virginia Valian, a psychologist at the City University of New York, says: “The results showing that fathers also leave STEM reinforces the hypothesis that the problem is a structural one, in which dedicated professionals are not expected to have a personal life, and, indeed, are punished for so doing.”

Ami Radunskaya, a mathematician at Pomona College in Claremont, California, who mentors young female mathematicians, says women can become exhausted from constantly having to prove themselves in a professional environment that is, “at best, challenging to everyone and, at worst, openly sexist”.

 

[Einherjar86]

If you're interested, Quanta recently published an interview with a mathematics scholar on this issue:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/caro...g-a-network-of-women-in-mathematics-20190122/

 

[Dak]

I realized then that it was so much more pleasant to be with women.

Replace "women" with "men" and let the quote be from a man. Riots in the streets.

 

[Dak]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/nyregion/renewal-initiative-de-blasio.html

Mayor Bill de Blasio is canceling one of his signature education initiatives, acknowledging that despite spending $773 million he was unable to turn around many long-struggling public schools in three years after decades of previous interventions had also failed.

The end of the initiative, called Renewal, is a blow to Mr. de Blasio, who had hoped that success would bolster his effort to build a national reputation for innovative policies. Urban educators around the country had also looked to Renewal as a model for improving underperforming schools in historically troubled districts, rather than closing them.

Instead, the program has been plagued by bureaucratic confusion and uneven academic results since Mr. de Blasio began it in 2014. Though some of the nearly 100 low-performing public schools have shown better results, many have fallen short of the improvements that Mr. de Blasio predicted. The Renewal label itself caused parents to seek other options, causing enrollment in some schools to plummet.

In other news, water is wet. Wonder what good that 3/4 of a billion dollars could have done if not applied to liberal fantasy projects.

 

[Einherjar86]

Replace "women" with "men" and let the quote be from a man. Riots in the streets.

That has been said by men. Countless times. We're all still here.

 

[rms]

If you're interested, Quanta recently published an interview with a mathematics scholar on this issue:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/caro...g-a-network-of-women-in-mathematics-20190122/

sort of with Dak, you gotta admit this is a goofy ass quote:

Maybe if there were more women in math, the environment would be more friendly. It’s not necessarily that I felt any aggressiveness or prejudice, but to my sensibility it was just an unfriendly environment.

There’s wild competition, harassment, implicit and explicit bias, and we have to prove ourselves all the time.

What is wrong with these people (academics more than women are the "people" here)? They willing fully enter a subjective and competitive field and then are surprised and upset about it?

I guess it would be interesting to read about these Chilean group of math ladies, but I always fear it's the same retorts.

 

[CiG]

Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality.
The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.

The Trump administration is launching a global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, U.S. officials tell NBC News, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record.

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

Lol? Progressive imperialism?

 

[Dak]

That has been said by men. Countless times. We're all still here.

High bar you've set. It has been said by men countless times, but now it's "problematic." "Male only spaces perpetuate rape culture."

 

[Einherjar86]

High bar you've set. It has been said by men countless times, but now it's "problematic." "Male only spaces perpetuate rape culture."

That's not at all what the article I posted said. All it says is that men already have their "only spaces." Which is perfectly accurate.

 

[CiG]

Men have The Boy Scouts for example. Oh wait.

 

[Einherjar86]

 

[Einherjar86]

Men have The Boy Scouts for example. Oh wait.

For the record:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampden–Sydney_College

There are other "men's colleges" in America. There are more "women's colleges" (several of which actually accept male students), but only after enrollment at American universities of overwhelmingly male.

It's a myth that there are no "men's spaces" in this country.

 

[Dak]

That's not at all what the article I posted said. All it says is that men already have their "only spaces." Which is perfectly accurate.

For the record:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampden–Sydney_College

There are other "men's colleges" in America. There are more "women's colleges" (several of which actually accept male students), but only after enrollment at American universities of overwhelmingly male.

It's a myth that there are no "men's spaces" in this country.

There's a difference between saying male only spaces exist and saying they should exist and have value.

Edit: Wait what? Male undergraduate enrollment is behind female enrollment and falling

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/

 

[CiG]

For the record:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampden–Sydney_College

There are other "men's colleges" in America. There are more "women's colleges" (several of which actually accept male students), but only after enrollment at American universities of overwhelmingly male.

It's a myth that there are no "men's spaces" in this country.

Can't wait for transgenderism to obliterate this gender segregation nonsense on both sides. As is the case with so much of what western feminists make an issue out of, most "male only" spaces are for wealthy men. Feminists are pathologically obsessed with power while they pretend that their targets represent "men" as a monolith when in fact the paradigm of class always makes much more sense, I think.

If women want to squeeze their way into some golf club or fraternity of rich men why should I give a shit? The cream of male society has about as much to do with me as the issues facing the homeless have to do with the scourge of mansplaining.

And like you said, there are more women's universities anyway. Selective outrage.

 

[Einherjar86]

There's a difference between saying male only spaces exist and saying they should exist and have value.

They do exist, and they do have value. Not even the female mathematician from the article I linked said they don't. The point is they simply have existed for a long time. There was no need to designate them. Men's spaces exist all over the place--sports teams, social clubs, boys' schools, and countless other nonspecified communities. Your objection is unnecessary.

 

[rms]

That's not at all what the article I posted said. All it says is that men already have their "only spaces." Which is perfectly accurate.

this is dishonest. She's suggesting there are male spaces simply because women aren't around, not that they've systematically not been allowed.