If Mort Divine ruled the world

[HamburgerBoy]

Me rn:

 

[CiG]

Dressing up as a Nazi for Purim?

 

[The Ozzman]

Not to mention that he was a literal meth addict.

Sauce?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Morell

 

[jimmy101]

They needed to keep the Fuhrer's mind ticking over at all times.

 

[The Ozzman]

They needed to keep the Fuhrer's mind ticking over at all times.

I guess you could say it was the 'final solution' to his fatigue

 

[jimmy101]

 

[Dak]

There's no proof it's due to biological differences. You're making an inference based on suggestibility.

The fact the woman has to take time off due to the pregnancy and the birth is a biological difference. Ability to nurse is a biological difference. I won't bother to get into average gender psychological differences because I can see that really going nowhere.

No, she isn't. Point out exactly where she says that the male-dominated demographics of STEM is the structural problem. She's suggesting that it's an effect of a structural problem.

And it made me think: Maybe if there were more women in math, the environment would be more friendly.
......
Many women, very talented women, were leaving mathematics. Many of them had to make this choice. For some women it is easier to deal with this environment; for others it is emotionally very costly. I think it is such a pity that we do lose talents because of this hostility.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Can feel my verbal IQ rising by the minute.

What about your nose? Is it also growing by the minute?

Me rn:

You rn:

 

[Dak]

https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/

 

[Einherjar86]

The fact the woman has to take time off due to the pregnancy and the birth is a biological difference. Ability to nurse is a biological difference. I won't bother to get into average gender psychological differences because I can see that really going nowhere.

That biological difference isn't the explanation for why more women are forced to leave STEM positions. It signals expectations within STEM positions that transform those biological differences into deciding factors; but the biological differences themselves aren't why women can't handle STEM positions. There's no reason why professionalism can't shape itself to meet these biological demands without sacrificing its gravity.

As for the quote you cited, she's saying it's an individual matter. Women choose to leave because of the large number of male voices; but the presence of those male voices isn't the structural problem. The problem is the demands placed on individuals that dictates whether or not they stay, as outlined in the Nature article. And because professionalism refuses to evolve, it tends to target women more harshly than men.

You're trying to make the presence of men into the structural issue, but that's not it; the structural issue is the workplace demands and their incompatibility with personal lifestyles. The attitude of women toward men in the workplace is a matter of personal preference, not the identification of the structural issue.

 

[CiG]

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

SHOVE YOUR AWARD CEREMONIES

When not publicly weeping at their own sheer brilliance, the attendees of these various events spend their time on stage berating whoever it is that you’re meant to berate these days. At the moment, it’s Trump, usually – a man who belongs entirely to the same world as these actors, actresses and musicians, with their self-same dependence on ratings, reviews and saleability. Perhaps it is familiarity that helps to breed this particular contempt – perhaps they remember that everyone turned a blind eye to far worse things than bluster about grabbing people“by the pussy”in the not-too-distant past. But then, the whole acceptance speech has mutated into an ordeal so transcendentally embarrassing that no amount of hypocritical posturing could ever, really, come as a surprise.

Keri rules.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

SHOVE YOUR AWARD CEREMONIES



Keri rules.

Thanks for posting this awesome article

 

[CiG]

Speaking of batshit theories...

.....nawww.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

.....nawww.

What the effing hell did I just watch??

 

[Einherjar86]

https://quillette.com/2019/02/27/why-renewables-cant-save-the-planet/

There are always a million reasons not to do something.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

the earth is doomed

 

[Dak]

That biological difference isn't the explanation for why more women are forced to leave STEM positions. It signals expectations within STEM positions that transform those biological differences into deciding factors; but the biological differences themselves aren't why women can't handle STEM positions. There's no reason why professionalism can't shape itself to meet these biological demands without sacrificing its gravity.

I think part of the problem here is that there is the data sin the Nature article and there is a single story from a person in a different country reporting her perspective on a problem that isn't present in the US. Again, I can't speak to the data in Brazil. But the data from the US does not in any way indicate that women are dropping out of STEM because of "the culture" or whatever, at least, not anymoreso than men. There's always opportunity cost with time, and some women place a higher value on more fully engaging in motherhood. That does not indicate that STEM has a problem (unless you're an antihumanist).

As for the quote you cited, she's saying it's an individual matter. Women choose to leave because of the large number of male voices; but the presence of those male voices isn't the structural problem. The problem is the demands placed on individuals that dictates whether or not they stay, as outlined in the Nature article. And because professionalism refuses to evolve, it tends to target women more harshly than men.

You're trying to make the presence of men into the structural issue, but that's not it; the structural issue is the workplace demands and their incompatibility with personal lifestyles. The attitude of women toward men in the workplace is a matter of personal preference, not the identification of the structural issue.

Turning specifically to Dr. Araujo, the entire article is about closing a gender gap caused by how the females in STEM perceive males in STEM. She notes in one paragraph out of the whole thing the difficulty of having children and staying in, but doesn't attribute the gender gap to that, even noting that she was able to take time off, while men typically don't. I on the other hand, do attribute the gap in the US to having children, based on the statistics showing that the percentages of women switching to part time or dropping out of work entirely explains the gap in engagement, rather than, switching from STEM fields to non-STEM fields, which is what we would expect if there was some unique issue in STEM.

 

[Dak]

.....nawww.

Alex Jones and Jeff Bridges, 2018, colorized.