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The El Paso shooter's manifesto reads almost like a massive cliche. These eco-white-nats are fucked in the head. Kill Mexicans to save the environment, whut?
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Also had his opinions pre-Trump.
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Also had his opinions pre-Trump.
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@rms Also are you not around my age? You really think the country was as divided in the early to mid 90's as it is today? If so than you are just plain lying to yourself and have literally bought into what the left has been selling for years now. Racist, sexism, and all these other "tools of hate" were almost non existent in the 90's(bubut mah rodney kang) ... at least where im from. The only racism you saw around here was from minorities against each other. He literally bred a generation of young radical "militant" leftists that are running this country into the ground. Alinsky's children at their finest. The guy is smiling in his rotten grave right now.
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I think the environmentalist thing is some attempt at finding common ground with the left, or possibly just out of admiration of Hitler's vegan environmentalist sentiments. Noted environmentalist and civnat Teddy Roosevelt was also a strong eugenicist. In a totally cynical and objective viewpoint I don't think it's exactly wrong; Americans are extremely consumption-happy and wasteful, and unlimited immigration to the USA means an ever-increasing number of future Americans while failing to discourage massive developing-world birth rates. But it's pretty clearly not a primary motive behind these terrorists, which is to bring back a white ethnostate.
CiG
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Shooting randoms at Walmart won't even impact the problems he claimed to care about at all. These eco-nat terrorists are faggots, if you're going to go out like that at least pick targets worth your life, like people who make the policies in the first place. Not José trying to buy some cheap steaks.
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In this specific case it could be because his father is a natural medicine hippie:
He was also associated with John of God Brazil:
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Interesting Twitter chain about the terrorist's father:
The father of the El Paso shooter is Bryan Crusius. And big surprise, he’s a therapist. Most people seem to be focusing on his more recent work as a weird new age yogi. However, I’m more interested in his former role: Director of Dual Diagnosis at a psychiatric hospital.
The father of the El Paso shooter is Bryan Crusius. And big surprise, he’s a therapist. Most people seem to be focusing on his more recent work as a weird new age yogi. However, I’m more interested in his former role: Director of Dual Diagnosis at a psychiatric hospital.
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I’ve met Connor Betts. He didn’t strike me as a potentially violent person but the guy was definitely weird.
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Woah really? A lot of people who went to school with him said he had a bizarre fascination with violence, his own GF apparently dumped him because he showed her GoPro footage of a mass shooting for example.
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He was at Daytonian Deathfest several months ago and he asked me a really weird question when I first got there but I can’t remember what it was. I don’t think I’ve seen him around at shows since though.
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I’d rather not get into a political debate about it but I remembered a guy fitting his description going on about being antifa at that show. That’s how I remembered that I’d met him so that isn’t slander.
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He did mention in his manifesto that he thought targeting politicians/judges/etc was unrealistic and that soft targets should be prioritized to maximize deathcount and news coverage, so he succeeded to that aim. From the news, a third of the victims were not American citizens, and while it's not clear yet whether the victims were illegal immigrants, there were reports that family members were hesitant to identify victims due to fear of deportation, so yeah. Combine that with people calling El Paso a "binational community" and some Mexican politician claiming that he'll take legal action against the USA, and I think the shooting made sense according to the shooter's motive of accelerationism.
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I was at work too early this morning to catch this live, but I hear it's entertaining and basically a massacre. Yaniv is a fat slob degenerate and I'm glad more people are discovering him because of his own retarded litigious activities.
(Sorry for all the posts, this morning has been pretty wild.)
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All mass shootings gain huge coverage, so it's not exactly like he had a great plan to begin with. However, consider how much coverage and buzz the attempted massacre of a GOP baseball game got and now imagine they had all been killed rather than injured/scared.
A whole team of secret servicemen, police and security will risk their lives to save one politician, by contrast a cop or guard won't even enter a school during a shooting to save hundreds of kids. I think he probably knew that soft targets put up the least resistance and chose the easiest route.
If this is true, I suppose you're right.
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Most mass shootings are committed by random crazies, not sober political extremists ideologically organized on imageboards. This shooting is going to eclipse everything over the last decade aside from Las Vegas (record bodycount), Parkland (rich Jewish kids), and maybe the Philadelphia synagogue (Jews). The next Dem debate will probably dedicate half of its runtime to just gun control, white extremism, and Hispanic pandering, and ads all over the Southwest are going to be blasting the death toll up to the election.
The baseball game shooting was something that probably won't happen again until someone really smart and with a lot of planning manages to also get lucky, security is just too strong and people are too conscious of political extremism now. Even for random bars in Ohio the police response was about 30 seconds. I mean, if someone actually assassinated a prominent Democrat, yeah that would create a martyr and potentially JFK-esque Democratic support, but the odds of that happening successfully are low.
The baseball game shooting was something that probably won't happen again until someone really smart and with a lot of planning manages to also get lucky, security is just too strong and people are too conscious of political extremism now. Even for random bars in Ohio the police response was about 30 seconds. I mean, if someone actually assassinated a prominent Democrat, yeah that would create a martyr and potentially JFK-esque Democratic support, but the odds of that happening successfully are low.
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I struggle with how they can't see that their actions won't be hugely counter-productive, specifically because of what you say here. Almost as if they're specifically trying to delegitimize the ideologies they claim to adhere to, and to make it damn near impossible to ever have a reasonable discussion about immigration etc.
Also kinda surprised at no mention of Israel in the manifesto.
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