If Mort Divine ruled the world

[rms]

the fact that people like you bought into his "hey i'm just the guy next door" front is what i'll never understand. He literally broke this country in half. We are where we are today largely because of him.

I think you're attributing a changing world, with social media, and white guilt from the media to Obama and I don't think that's correct. Just waiting to see what you say what was not middle of the road for Obama, because every 'real leftist' thing is about him being a neoliberal hack or sellout or some shit like that.

@rms Also are you not around my age? You really think the country was as divided in the early to mid 90's as it is today? If so than you are just plain lying to yourself and have literally bought into what the left has been selling for years now. Racist, sexism, and all these other "tools of hate" were almost non existent in the 90's(bubut mah rodney kang) ... at least where im from. The only racism you saw around here was from minorities against each other. He literally bred a generation of young radical "militant" leftists that are running this country into the ground. Alinsky's children at their finest. The guy is smiling in his rotten grave right now.

I'll be 31 so I think we're about the same age. feel like California is real good at hiding all their bullshit problems but I was 12 with 9/11 happened, I don't remember shit let alone trust my memory to be anything of value. but you got the riots in 92 that were all racial and then OJ and we're going to act like it wasn't a significant problem back then? I think you're conflating with not being recognized as not being a divide

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

He did mention in his manifesto that he thought targeting politicians/judges/etc was unrealistic and that soft targets should be prioritized to maximize deathcount and news coverage, so he succeeded to that aim. From the news, a third of the victims were not American citizens, and while it's not clear yet whether the victims were illegal immigrants, there were reports that family members were hesitant to identify victims due to fear of deportation, so yeah. Combine that with people calling El Paso a "binational community" and some Mexican politician claiming that he'll take legal action against the USA, and I think the shooting made sense according to the shooter's motive of accelerationism.

also
the president of mexico officially confirmed that "at least 3" of the victims were actually "citizens of mexico"

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

purely a "Fuck it I always wanted to shoot people, may as well strike now" impulse murder.

uuuggghhh
is this going to happen every time a mass shooting gets on CNN??

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

.... "but we've always been the same" ... "changing world". Pick one. Are we going to act like "white guilt", the media etc arent some of the sharpest knives the left has in their drawer? Do i need to explain to you why and how? The explosion of social media is literally one of the most important things to happen them. I see no point continuing this with you because you are illiterately just regurgitating what the left has convinced most of the average joe's(including some republicans who were dumb enough to vote for him the first time around). I thought you were smarter than that ... actually no, i didnt.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

I'll be 31 so I think we're about the same age. feel like California is real good at hiding all their bullshit problems but I was 12 with 9/11 happened, I don't remember shit let alone trust my memory to be anything of value. but you got the riots in 92 that were all racial and then OJ and we're going to act like it wasn't a significant problem back then? I think you're conflating with not being recognized as not being a divide

the racism divide isn't ever going to go away
the city of Ferguson is a perfect example
when they had to control the rioters with a motherfucking tank
the tank was already fucking there from riots that had happened before Michael brown had even died
when a black kid got killed by a white cop and the people in the city complained that it was the police being racist
you had a city where the black people vastly outnumbered the white people
and yet the entire fucking police force was muther fucking white people
if they really truly had a problem with their cops being supposedly white-supremacist
then the city that's 4/5 black people could have pretty easily just replaced their entire police force with black cops
but they didn't even try to get themselves even one single black cop
the mayor is white
the entire city council is white
the entire police force is white
all the DAs and all the judges are all white
and nobody is even trying to replace any of those people with black people

rope off Ferguson and kick out all the white people
make a city where only black people are allowed to enter it and watch how quickly everything falls apart

what makes the racial divide is mostly a culture divide caused by "the black culture"

when you have a culture that considers a pimp an acceptable job title (hookers really don't need pimps)
when you have a culture where someone entire source of income is just merely drug dealing (as opposed to the drug dealers that also have 9-to-5 jobs)
when you have the culture of black people alive today somehow walking around thinking that slavery somehow makes black people alive today somehow better than the white people alive today
when you have people that become pimps and drug dealers as a straight-up instead-of going to college
when you have a woman with 6 different baby-daddies
when you have a guy with 9 different baby-mommas
when you have less than 15% of the population committing more than 50% of the crime

you have a culture that's really not compatible with the culture of the white people in Nebraska that have never even seen a black person face-2-face

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

sorry about the weird placement of the rant of the previous post

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

@The Butt
who's the guy in your avatar??

 

[Dak]

So you're saying the divide is between good behavior and bad behavior? Seems kind of racist.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

So you're saying the divide is between good behavior and bad behavior? Seems kind of racist.

i'm saying the "bad behavior" is part of the "black culture"

i was basically doing chris rock's joke
Niggas vs. Black People - Wikipedia
but i was doing as a legit complaint, instead of just a joke

 

[The Butt]

@The Butt
who's the guy in your avatar??

Fucked if I know. *shrug*

 

[CiG]

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Does he ask Bernie if he ever did DMT during his student protestor days?

 

[CiG]

No but he actually brings up aliens.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Listened to about a third of the interview, parts here and there. Pretty meh unless I accidentally missed the good parts. Wasn't expecting Joe to go hard since he usually is nice to really big name interviewees, but Sanders talks about how the media doesn't give enough time to candidates to give proper, complete answers, and then goes and gives more or less the same answers to Joe's questions anyways (just with a calmer tone of voice).

Sanders: Do you know how much the University of California schools cost back in the 1950s?
Joe: How much?
Sanders: Very little.
Joe: How much do they cost now?
Sanders: A lot.

Like lmao, you ask the question like you're going to drop a bomb and you can't even excite Joe enough to do the wide-eyed WOAAAHH thing he always does. And he's half-wrong anyways; the UC system is relatively special in that the bottom 50th percentile of students receive free tuition anyways, thanks in part to California's rather high state income tax (and all the rich people living there).

Joe: So how is it that companies like Amazon actually get away with paying nothing in taxes?
Sanders: Powah and money. They put their money in Bermuda or Panama or Lichtenstein.

Never thought he was particularly deep thinker or anything but I was hoping he'd come equipped with at least a few spicy anecdotes. From the perspective that he'd probably accomplish nothing, however, it's another reason to vote for him should he by some crazy miracle/tragedy receive the nomination.

Weak on the mental health aspect of spree shooters too, just talked about Medicare For All as if it isn't middle-upper class man-children on their parents' insurance that commit the majority of these massacres (well, the ones that make headlines anyways). Barely even tried to relate the usual spiel to the relevant problem.

 

[CiG]

Fully agree, but in all fairness Joe's 1 hour interviews are almost always shit/boring/a letdown regardless of who they are. 1 hour is a lot when you recorded 3 hours worth of shit and it gets edited down to 1 hour for TV, but just straight up 1 hour isn't enough. A good conversation only starts to warm up like 30 mins in, Bernie needs to come back and do a proper JRE episode imo.

Edit: Bernie is definitely one of the more bland/boring progressives. This is a guy that bent the knee to Clinton, he doesn't have too many hot takes in him. Joe should have someone like Ilhan on lmao. His episodes with Tulsi and Yang were much more exciting.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

An Ilhan Omar episode would be amazing. Fingers crossed.

 

[CiG]

The more he has on prominent lefties the better the chance is.

 

[CiG]

According to multiple students at Dayton shooter Connor Betts’s former high school, Betts kept a list of fellow students who he planned to target, CNN says. The boys’ names were on a “hit list,” and the girls’ on a “rape list.” Some of the girls listed were those whom Betts had approached for dates and turned him down, while others say they “didn’t really know” Betts and had no idea why he put them on his list.

 

[rms]

.... "but we've always been the same" ... "changing world". Pick one. Are we going to act like "white guilt", the media etc arent some of the sharpest knives the left has in their drawer? Do i need to explain to you why and how? The explosion of social media is literally one of the most important things to happen them. I see no point continuing this with you because you are illiterately just regurgitating what the left has convinced most of the average joe's(including some republicans who were dumb enough to vote for him the first time around). I thought you were smarter than that ... actually no, i didnt.

so you're attributing Obama to developing and fostering the human interest and problems surrounding social media?

I like the arrogance to think basic conservative talk radio/rush Limbaugh esque talking points are the intelligent ones

 

[rms]

An Ilhan Omar episode would be amazing. Fingers crossed.

haha I don't think they'd ever go on, I think they think he's a alt-right dude or whatever