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Woah really? A lot of people who went to school with him said he had a bizarre fascination with violence, his own GF apparently dumped him because he showed her GoPro footage of a mass shooting for example.
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He was at Daytonian Deathfest several months ago and he asked me a really weird question when I first got there but I can’t remember what it was. I don’t think I’ve seen him around at shows since though.
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I’d rather not get into a political debate about it but I remembered a guy fitting his description going on about being antifa at that show. That’s how I remembered that I’d met him so that isn’t slander.
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He did mention in his manifesto that he thought targeting politicians/judges/etc was unrealistic and that soft targets should be prioritized to maximize deathcount and news coverage, so he succeeded to that aim. From the news, a third of the victims were not American citizens, and while it's not clear yet whether the victims were illegal immigrants, there were reports that family members were hesitant to identify victims due to fear of deportation, so yeah. Combine that with people calling El Paso a "binational community" and some Mexican politician claiming that he'll take legal action against the USA, and I think the shooting made sense according to the shooter's motive of accelerationism.
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I was at work too early this morning to catch this live, but I hear it's entertaining and basically a massacre. Yaniv is a fat slob degenerate and I'm glad more people are discovering him because of his own retarded litigious activities.
(Sorry for all the posts, this morning has been pretty wild.)
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All mass shootings gain huge coverage, so it's not exactly like he had a great plan to begin with. However, consider how much coverage and buzz the attempted massacre of a GOP baseball game got and now imagine they had all been killed rather than injured/scared.
A whole team of secret servicemen, police and security will risk their lives to save one politician, by contrast a cop or guard won't even enter a school during a shooting to save hundreds of kids. I think he probably knew that soft targets put up the least resistance and chose the easiest route.
If this is true, I suppose you're right.
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Most mass shootings are committed by random crazies, not sober political extremists ideologically organized on imageboards. This shooting is going to eclipse everything over the last decade aside from Las Vegas (record bodycount), Parkland (rich Jewish kids), and maybe the Philadelphia synagogue (Jews). The next Dem debate will probably dedicate half of its runtime to just gun control, white extremism, and Hispanic pandering, and ads all over the Southwest are going to be blasting the death toll up to the election.
The baseball game shooting was something that probably won't happen again until someone really smart and with a lot of planning manages to also get lucky, security is just too strong and people are too conscious of political extremism now. Even for random bars in Ohio the police response was about 30 seconds. I mean, if someone actually assassinated a prominent Democrat, yeah that would create a martyr and potentially JFK-esque Democratic support, but the odds of that happening successfully are low.
The baseball game shooting was something that probably won't happen again until someone really smart and with a lot of planning manages to also get lucky, security is just too strong and people are too conscious of political extremism now. Even for random bars in Ohio the police response was about 30 seconds. I mean, if someone actually assassinated a prominent Democrat, yeah that would create a martyr and potentially JFK-esque Democratic support, but the odds of that happening successfully are low.
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I struggle with how they can't see that their actions won't be hugely counter-productive, specifically because of what you say here. Almost as if they're specifically trying to delegitimize the ideologies they claim to adhere to, and to make it damn near impossible to ever have a reasonable discussion about immigration etc.
Also kinda surprised at no mention of Israel in the manifesto.
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The concept is that blowback will anger people once at the peripheries. The Christchurch shooter said he hoped that his shooting would inspire (if indirectly) a crackdown on gun rights in the USA. If Trump manages to pass red flag laws or an assault rifle ban, you might radicalize a lot of relatively-content no-step-on-snek types, causing just one to go full McVeigh, further eroding gun rights. There could be just one Mexican irredentist in America, once satisfied to simply show up at La Raza rallies, deciding to shoot up a white Walmart in retaliation, increasing white racial conscience. When a nation is functioning relatively healthily these problems are dealt with as they come up, but when other factors are in decline as well (particularly the economy) you end up with Weimar Republic level faction wars and extreme polarization at the polls. Worth pointing out that Hitler, Himmler, and Goebbels were all shut-in incels before gaining political success as well; nothing more dangerous than sexually-frustrated white dudes organizing violently, which is also the fundamental base of many alt-right/pol types. Accelerationism is proven to work as long as conditions are right.
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I think you're attributing a changing world, with social media, and white guilt from the media to Obama and I don't think that's correct. Just waiting to see what you say what was not middle of the road for Obama, because every 'real leftist' thing is about him being a neoliberal hack or sellout or some shit like that.
I'll be 31 so I think we're about the same age. feel like California is real good at hiding all their bullshit problems but I was 12 with 9/11 happened, I don't remember shit let alone trust my memory to be anything of value. but you got the riots in 92 that were all racial and then OJ and we're going to act like it wasn't a significant problem back then? I think you're conflating with not being recognized as not being a divide
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also
the president of mexico officially confirmed that "at least 3" of the victims were actually "citizens of mexico"
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uuuggghhh
is this going to happen every time a mass shooting gets on CNN??
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.... "but we've always been the same" ... "changing world". Pick one. Are we going to act like "white guilt", the media etc arent some of the sharpest knives the left has in their drawer? Do i need to explain to you why and how? The explosion of social media is literally one of the most important things to happen them. I see no point continuing this with you because you are illiterately just regurgitating what the left has convinced most of the average joe's(including some republicans who were dumb enough to vote for him the first time around). I thought you were smarter than that ... actually no, i didnt. 
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the racism divide isn't ever going to go away
the city of Ferguson is a perfect example
when they had to control the rioters with a motherfucking tank
the tank was already fucking there from riots that had happened before Michael brown had even died
when a black kid got killed by a white cop and the people in the city complained that it was the police being racist
you had a city where the black people vastly outnumbered the white people
and yet the entire fucking police force was muther fucking white people
if they really truly had a problem with their cops being supposedly white-supremacist
then the city that's 4/5 black people could have pretty easily just replaced their entire police force with black cops
but they didn't even try to get themselves even one single black cop
the mayor is white
the entire city council is white
the entire police force is white
all the DAs and all the judges are all white
and nobody is even trying to replace any of those people with black people
rope off Ferguson and kick out all the white people
make a city where only black people are allowed to enter it and watch how quickly everything falls apart
what makes the racial divide is mostly a culture divide caused by "the black culture"
when you have a culture that considers a pimp an acceptable job title (hookers really don't need pimps)
when you have a culture where someone entire source of income is just merely drug dealing (as opposed to the drug dealers that also have 9-to-5 jobs)
when you have the culture of black people alive today somehow walking around thinking that slavery somehow makes black people alive today somehow better than the white people alive today
when you have people that become pimps and drug dealers as a straight-up instead-of going to college
when you have a woman with 6 different baby-daddies
when you have a guy with 9 different baby-mommas
when you have less than 15% of the population committing more than 50% of the crime
you have a culture that's really not compatible with the culture of the white people in Nebraska that have never even seen a black person face-2-face
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