If Mort Divine ruled the world
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Not a matter of my satisfaction, the message beyond the literal interpretation of its name is an act of manufacturing outrage (as usual).
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Sounds like denial to me tbh, many of my conservative boomer relatives are big on Qanon stuff. The first time an uncle asked me if I thought it was legit I had to contain my laughter knowing a retarded 4chan meme had spread so far.
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Oh I have at least one relative who thinks it's legit. I've challenged him everytime he makes a prediction that fails but of course X didn't happen because of "new developments" that happened "behind the scenes" which he knows about because of his "sources". It's both sad and cringe.
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if more "liberals" read about QAnon, if by "read about" we're including all the various critical exposes on Vox et al.
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let's not act like those three standardized tests prioritize intelligence over time and money.
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Like I said, let's not test anyone for anything. Presto, we now have equality in all domains.
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GRE is a fucking racket. Kick it to the curb. Plenty of more effective ways to assess a candidate's quality.
SAT not as much, but it's still rigged.
SAT not as much, but it's still rigged.
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My ulterior motive is to destroy higher education - particularly all institutions of prestige - so I acknowledge that I may have a bias, but I don't think standardized exams do all that much to help spread education in an efficient way. Despite the existence of the SAT, the lower ~third of admitted students at an ordinary school end up dropping out regardless, and there is so much noise in differentiating a rank-100 college from, say, a rank-250 college that it really doesn't matter where you go to undergrad relative to field of study, individual study ethic, accomplishments, and intelligence. Class examinations will do a plenty good job on their own separating the retards from the decent students. And the GRE is basically totally worthless, most professors will tell you that GPA, publications, and good extra-curriculars outweigh it.
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GRE can be used to chop an application stack down to a manageable size, but beyond that it doesn't yield much selectivity. However, it's hilarious that they are doing this right after the report they commissioned recommended otherwise. GPAs are becoming worthless as a metric due to grade inflation, so what else is left? Extracurriculars tell you how much money the parents have. Hmmm.
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I might be using extra-curriculars broadly. Loading up your application with charity, sports, etc is certainly puffery, and basically exists to either 1) show your willingness to work unpaid and be compliant, or 2) justify admittance by creating a story for admissions officers to point to for high-privilege students.
The specific example I had in mind was a brother who had a near-perfect GPA in computer engineering from the same low-tier local college I attended, who got into a top ~5 PhD program because he showed his future PI various programs he had written in his free time (many going back to his homeschooling). The PI told him that without all that extra work, the GPA and even letters of rec would not have been enough on their own. My dad never attended graduate school but got a strong letter of recommendation from a professor for doing similar, which helped him get a job at NASA straight out of college. While there is all sorts of legal/signaling bullshit that goes into college admissions, the advisers and employers on the front lines have plenty of reasons (and metrics by which) to disregard the fluff and determine real potential value.
The specific example I had in mind was a brother who had a near-perfect GPA in computer engineering from the same low-tier local college I attended, who got into a top ~5 PhD program because he showed his future PI various programs he had written in his free time (many going back to his homeschooling). The PI told him that without all that extra work, the GPA and even letters of rec would not have been enough on their own. My dad never attended graduate school but got a strong letter of recommendation from a professor for doing similar, which helped him get a job at NASA straight out of college. While there is all sorts of legal/signaling bullshit that goes into college admissions, the advisers and employers on the front lines have plenty of reasons (and metrics by which) to disregard the fluff and determine real potential value.
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