If Mort Divine ruled the world

[Blurry_Dreams]

When I went to school we had classes grouped by ability. It wasn't labelled as gifted, but the top class tended to be pushed ahead to do the math and sciences a year above..

we have that in America
the smart kids are labeled as "gifted" and the dumb kids are labeled as "special ed"

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

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instead of responding to your words
i'm just gonna say that these pieces of art are awesome

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

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I didn't read the full quote or anything, but imaging phrasing the physical manifestion of racism this poorly

https://www.google.com/search?q=the...LCKwKHR43BugQ4dUDCAw&uact=5#spf=1620320747308

 

[rms]

So the libs are all in on cancel culture now with this Wilder AP reporter? My god I read an article talking about how CNN is now an entertainment channel because of the Cuomo's and I'm just wondering how fucking delusional are these people??

 

[Einherjar86]

So the libs are all in on cancel culture now with this Wilder AP reporter? My god I read an article talking about how CNN is now an entertainment channel because of the Cuomo's and I'm just wondering how fucking delusional are these people??

I'm going to use this as an example for my (half-baked) argument that cancel culture is less about "the libs" (if by that we mean something like a left-wing thought police a la HBB's insane theory of American liberalism being more Marxian than Marx) than it is about capitalism and the market.

All these places supposedly caving to "cancel culture" aren't being forced to fire anyone. They're making business decisions based on optics and future returns. Now, do these decisions sometimes fall in line with what a vaguely liberal/leftist/democratic (I use all the terms because I'm not sure which is correct, and I suspect in some way they all are) demographic pushes? Yes, absolutely.

But they don't have to. Emily Wilder wasn't the target of liberals, but of conservatives:

Emily Wilder spoke with BuzzFeed News after she was fired by the Associated Press when conservatives shared her old social media posts and noted her pro-Palestinian college activism.

This isn't to say that so-called cancel culture never aligns with purportedly liberal values, but that it also can align with conservative values. Wilder's firing corresponds precisely to current Zionist conservative politics that aim to demonize Palestine, and the source of the pressure came from the Stanford College Republicans.

All this is to say, cancel culture has less to do with leftism or our contemporary notion of liberalism/"the libs" than it does with the bottom line, and in this society that means financial incentives. The AP wants to avoid any controversy that might impact membership. Conservatives are rip-roaring cancel culturists, and they take any chance they can to silence those they don't like. The notion that cancel culture is a liberal movement isn't accurate, I'd say. Or rather, it's liberal insofar as liberal means liberalism--i.e. free markets.

You can say whatever the fuck you like, but the market will have the final say. All hail capitalism.

 

[CiG]

It's a stretch to call Israel dickriding specifically "conservative" when it is (across most of the political spectrum) the safest position to take. Even if the witch-hunt was started by conservatives (they start them a lot) what matters is if it catches on, if only conservatives see someone as problematic they rarely then become radioactive enough to be fired. Being pro-Palestine is still pretty radical.

Rainbow capitalism is "in" right now and so yeah I 100% agree that these companies are acting this way because it makes the most sense financially, as opposed to any ideological alignment with progressivism.

 

[Einherjar86]

Yeah, 100% that's fair. A ton of democrats still identify as pro-Israel. I guess I'd say that's just another sense in which I see cancel culture as a trans-political phenomenon, if that makes sense. It isn't really about left versus right.

 

[CiG]

In order for "cancel culture" to be effective the grievance has to have purchase in the culture that individual exists within.

This is why Liz Cheney is being "cancelled" within the Republican demographic even as society at large is basically defending her or at least agrees with her views on Trump. Similarly this is why "cancel culture" is perceived as left-wing (even though this thing can be traced back to the PMRC-types in the US and the Mary Whitehouse-types in the UK---conservative) because what is considered "cancellable" now are issues the left is primarily concerned with; bigotry, racism, rape culture, etc.

When corporations start pandering in a certain direction, it usually means they're playing catch up with the broader social norms. I think "cancel culture" pisses off the right more because it's evidence their social views are outdated as opposed to because they end up being targeted by it.

 

[rms]

But they don't have to. Emily Wilder wasn't the target of liberals, but of conservatives:

oh yeah, no doubt. I was too vague in my initial reply (maybe ill start GMD'ing on my PC more often), but left leaning talking heads/whatever usually say cancel culture isn't real. Wilder seems to be the most recent mainstream option after Kaepernick, but seemingly these dots are not connected just thought it was funny how fast the denial of "cancelling" was ignored for their guy.

You can say whatever the fuck you like, but the market will have the final say. All hail capitalism.

Don't mess with them wealthy jews

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

i think the whole thing with employed people getting fired over tweets is really fucking stupid

Wilder never did anything that prevented her from doing her job properly and her bosses even finding out about the tweets (from how many years ago??) was clearly an invasion of privacy

and now we have a Jewish person fired for being an anti-semite
what the fucking hell??
even for crazy-ass America this was fucked-up

 

[CiG]

Yikes.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

still better than Donald Trump

 

[CiG]

still better than Donald Trump

I never said anything to the contrary.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

maybe after Biden we could have a young person become the US president??

 

[Einherjar86]

Ugh that is pretty bad. Uncle Joe’s a creeper.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

Donald Trump was (at the time) the oldest person to ever get elected president
until Joe Biden became the oldest guy to ever get elected president

I'm thinking we should have someone a couple of decades younger be our next president

 

[CiG]

Apparently Jimmy Dore sexually harassed Ana Kasparian while he worked at TYT and is now bragging about it.

 

[no country for old wainds]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57549653

it begins.......

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57549653

it begins.......

 

[CiG]

I called a Crowder fan a "dickrider" and this is how he responded, haha:



I almost never get into shit with people on Facebook anymore, being reminded why.