If Mort Divine ruled the world

[CiG]

shit sundae

Let me guess, a sundae made by Haitians? Fuck is wrong with you man...

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Let me guess, a sundae made by Haitians? Fuck is wrong with you man...

Are you acquainted with the history of Haiti?

 

[CiG]

Are you acquainted with the history of Haiti?

Somewhat why?

 

[rms]

I don't care if he says shithole, and that's being "apologetic". I care about policies and appointments to important positions, and so far Trump is delivering. That says nothing about what I think of his "character". I'd rather have Obama in my home than Trump, if that makes you happy.

delivering? come on Dak...

 

[Dak]

delivering? come on Dak...

Mattis
Gorsuch
Tax cut
ISIS smashed
Mandate rollback
Lower court justice vacancies filled
Illegal immigration down
Pulled out of PCA and TPP, maybe eventually NAFTA
Regulation reduction

Pretty solid list to me.

 

[Einherjar86]

Of course it is. I still can't believe you're delusional enough to think some of those are good things. But I should stop being surprised, you've been sliding this way for a while now.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

Somewhat why?

Because the devastating economic situation they've been in since achieving independence is hardly a product of their own doing, unless you want to blame them for fighting to not be under the yoke of slavery. Independence began with crushing debt after the French demanded they pay them for the lost cost of their slaves. Debt and interest directly related to this wasn't paid off until 1947. The US didn't acknowledge their existence until the Civil War, and was apprehensive to any European approaches to the island nation. From acknowledgement of existence until 1957, the US regularly invaded the country, sometimes occupying them for extensive periods of time. This came to an end with the rise of the corrupt, repressive anti-communist dictatorship, supported by the US until the 80s when they became just a little too repressive and we suspended aid. Of course, that toppled and something worse came to power, which was followed by a US blockade. And so on.

The US has more to thank for Haiti than get's acknowledged. France had intended to use Haiti, an otherwise resource poor island, as a giant sugar factory (a product which financed the rise of the French empire), and to feed it using the vast resources of the Louisiana Territory. Independence through a wrench into this. Napoleon, now without the money of his island plantation cut his losses and sold the Louisiana Territory to the US for a steal. Maybe the US would have acquired it later anyways. MAYBE.

 

[CiG]

(While I appreciate what you're saying) all of that in reaction to me making a joke connecting Ein's "shit sundae" comment to the whole "shithole" subject? There's a shit suffix meme forming here man, try to keep up.

 

[viewerfromnihil]

(While I appreciate what you're saying) all of that in reaction to me making a joke connecting Ein's "shit sundae" comment to the whole "shithole" subject? There's a shit suffix meme forming here man, try to keep up.

Don't be shittin me.

edit: I should add that I figured it would bait Dak

 

[CiG]

 

[Dak]

Of course it is. I still can't believe you're delusional enough to think some of those are good things. But I should stop being surprised, you've been sliding this way for a while now.

Which of those things are something I have slid to? I was never in favor of an individual mandate. I was never in favor of multilateral price fixing/tariff agreements, I've never been in favor of federal taxes, and while I'm against US military adventurism, I'm also against half-measures. I've never been pro-illegal immigration. Gorsuch is considered a staunch Constitutionalist, and Obama neglected filling lower courts, depriving US citizens to some degree of the right to speedy trial. Related to smashing ISIS, I would have been/are pro putting a competent military leader in charge of the military, rather than some fucking twit(s) more interested in internal, misguided social change than accomplishing and supporting the mission of the military.

 

[rms]

just don't get how you can consider fed tax cuts OK while ignoring spending

Gorsuch i'd have to hear his position on something controversial. He had Mattis and Tillerson ( from what I could tell) and that was it. Everything else seemed to be an absolute garbage hire.

 

[Dak]

just don't get how you can consider fed tax cuts OK while ignoring spending

Well there is apparently zero political will on either side of the aisle to address rampant spending, so I can't lay that on Trump. We're stuck with continued inflation regardless.

Gorsuch i'd have to hear his position on something controversial. He had Mattis and Tillerson ( from what I could tell) and that was it. Everything else seemed to be an absolute garbage hire.

The important positions had solid or stellar appointments. Hamstringing the DoEducation and the EPA aren't exactly a bad thing in my mind. It's two steps removed from eliminating them (fucking half measures), which would definitely be preferable but likely politically impossible. But then, that's supposedly what moving the US Israeli embassy was, but it's already just about fallen out of the newscycle.

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

French author claims feminists want 'contract before sex'

She said several victims, including Samantha Geimer, who was raped by film director Roman Polanski when she was 13, have since signed their letter warning it had gone too far.

Geimer said she "agreed entirely" with Deneuve and the other signatories, tweeting that "women need equality, respect and sexual freedom.

"We get that by standing up for ourselves and each other. Not by asking others to protect us and define what is 'allowed' for ladies," said the Hawaii-based writer, who wants the charges against Polanski to be dropped so she can get on with her life.

She said #MeToo was being "used against men rather than for women... to glamorize victimhood rather than to show recovery and strength."

 

[Dak]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

Guess which state has the highest poverty rate in the country? Not Mississippi, New Mexico, or West Virginia, but California, where nearly one out of five residents is poor. That’s according to the Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure, which factors in the cost of housing, food, utilities and clothing, and which includes noncash government assistance as a form of income.

It’s not as though California policymakers have neglected to wage war on poverty. Sacramento and local governments have spent massive amounts in the cause. Several state and municipal benefit programs overlap with one another; in some cases, individuals with incomes 200% above the poverty line receive benefits. California state and local governments spent nearly $958 billion from 1992 through 2015 on public welfare programs, including cash-assistance payments, vendor payments and “other public welfare,” according to the Census Bureau. California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation’s welfare recipients.

The generous spending, then, has not only failed to decrease poverty; it actually seems to have made it worse.

The rest of the article talks about how various other elite and liberal policies contribute to poverty, to include land use restrictions and environmental regulations.

 

[Einherjar86]

You know what else contributes to poverty? Taxing poor people more heavily than wealthy people.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You know what else contributes to poverty? Taxing poor people more heavily than wealthy people.

Good thing we have a progressive tax policy then.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

The rest of the article talks about how various other elite and liberal policies contribute to poverty, to include land use restrictions and environmental regulations.

tbh there are important considerations not mentioned including

1) Free travel between states meaning welfare acts as a magnet for the poor of other states, something well-known to occur when other states bus their homeless to California
2) Illegals moving to California are often funneled into sub-minimum wage jobs; that is their purpose to big-business
3) Same illegals are still less poor living in California than in their Latin American shitholes

Also, welfare states have significantly reduced poverty in much of Western and Northern Europe.

 

[Dak]

Also, welfare states have significantly reduced poverty in much of Western and Northern Europe.

Well, it's definitely arguable it was in spite of the welfare. Something about homogeneous populations too.

 

[arg]

You know what else contributes to poverty? Taxing poor people more heavily than wealthy people.

That’s fucking dumb coming from you. Poor people pay nothing, they get checks that came out of rich and middle class people’s salaries.

What claim do they have on our wealth? What did they do to deserve it? Exist, breathe and shit? Fuck them and fuck lefties