I'm torn between a few amps, help me choose?

Mattayus

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The ability to try them out is retarded limited where I live, so I haven't had a chance to try them all yet. I will obviously try before I buy, I would just like to catch the general consensus on them first.

Now, basically, my band is in the process of writing/recording pre-production tracks, which I am using all VST instruments for. Once we have an album's worth we are doing it all for real, and at that point me and my guitarist are going to get new amps.

But which one(s)?

If you would be so kind as to take a listen to our pre-production tracks thus far, just to get an idea of our style/feel/sound, and then perhaps you could say more accurately which you think would suit us the most.

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Things I'm after in a tone
Presence, aggression, hugeness, tightness, grit, balls, and that "holy FUCK that's heavy!" feeling. We play 7 strings in Bb standard and drop Ab, as well as 6 strings in drop C, so whatever I get needs to be able to translate well with all that low end.

The choices I have narrowed it down to so far are these, in order of favouritism;

5150/6505
Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
EVH 5150III
Framus Cobra

5150/6505
The obvious choice. It's cheap, sounds huge, it's got aggression, gain on tap, and most importantly - definition. I really dig note definition in mixes, and this has it in spades. It's easy to engineer, I've never heard one sound band, even at amateur level. Crap clean though, but I can get around that with other gear.

Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier
This one has me stumped. I've always been baffled by the consensus of the Rectifiers. They're supposed to be some of the best amps in the world, but so many people complain about their tone... yet still desire them? Totally confusing. I have no experience with them at all, but I am familiar with their tone when they’re done right, and they sound astounding. Absolute power houses, and that is ultimately what I’m after, just sheer hugeness and heaviness. Are they really that difficult to get an excellent tone out of? Or is that all just bullshit from people who don’t know what they’re doing?

EVH 5150III
Relatively new to me, only heard one for the first time last year, and totally fuckin loved it. It's super tight, really crystal clear and present, all the things everyone loves about 5150's, but slightly different voicing. In a good way. Would be an awesome option, but I need more play-time on one before I really make my mind up about it.

Framus Cobra
Never played one, never heard one for real, only going on complete hearsay. Supposed to be a sick metal amp, perfect balance between 5150 and Dual Rec, which... sounds right up my street, to be honest!

Thanks for any input you can give, it will be massively appreciated.
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If I would recommend an amp for you it would be the 5150 or the 6505. Hands down the best amp in its price range. You will get a nice thick metal sound that will work for every metal genre.

The other amps you mentioned are all great but If you're out of cash(or cash-lacking) a used 5150 is hard to beat.
 
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5150 or EVH.
I own a Dual triple channels and a 6505. I tend to prefer 6505 for deathmetal and technical stuff, and mesa for rock/newmetal/slower things.
Mesa... is love/hate for me too. Cool for fat/large sounds, but I prefer 5150 for metal sounds...I generally prefer the texture of the 5150 in the highs, they fit better any kind of metal.
And after listening what you do, I'm sure you need a 5150 or EVH.

I never tried a Framus Cobra.
 
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5150 or EVH.
I own a Dual triple channels and a 6505. I tend to prefer 6505 for deathmetal and technical stuff, and mesa for rock/newmetal/slower things.
Mesa... is love/hate for me too. Cool for fat/large sounds, but I prefer 5150 for metal sounds...I generally prefer the texture of the 5150 in the highs, they fit better any kind of metal.
And after listening what you do, I'm sure you need a 5150 or EVH.

I never tried a Framus Cobra.

I have a similar setup and am doing excatly the same! +1
 
Awesome, thanks for the input guys. You've pretty much just confirmed my thoughts on these amps anyway. My sound is based on the 5150 sound, those demos are all done with ReValver 6505 model. I'm not into getting anything boutique or super expensive, it's just not our thing. I just want raw metal, but in a nice, well produced way. I was already leaning towards 5150/6505 and I think that's what I'll stick with. Maybe the 5150 III down the line when I'm making more money haha
 
I say the EVH. After playing through that and 6505 enough times, I realise the evh is just THAT much different so it's not the usual 51510 +recto blah blah that you get used to. It's got just enough character to be different ;)

Also... I found it sounds amazing through its matched cab. Wasn't as impressed through the mesa cab! Funny huh! I think formation of damnation was matching cab IIR. :)
 
The EVH sounds like a improved 5150. Better highs better saturation. So if you got the money that is what i would buy.

Ah awesome, thanks man. When the time comes to buy I'll see what the funds are allowing :lol: I'd definitely like to try one at least. They're getting more popular by the second it seems.

I say the EVH. After playing through that and 6505 enough times, I realise the evh is just THAT much different so it's not the usual 51510 +recto blah blah that you get used to. It's got just enough character to be different ;)

Also... I found it sounds amazing through its matched cab. Wasn't as impressed through the mesa cab! Funny huh! I think formation of damnation was matching cab IIR. :)

Is that with the Celestion EVH signature speakers? They are intriguing. Funny you should mention that because I was actually gonna get it with a Mesa 4x12!
 
After searching for 5150's for sale I've come across a few 5150 II's going for fairly cheap.

I know their tonal "differences" is one for debate, but in short; are they still great amps that will suffice for what I want? I adore Chimaira's tone and I know that's 5150 II (6505+ these days)