I have to assume this is just being controversial for the sake of it, as nobody is this stupid.
IN FLAMES new album being released by the end of 2016
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I have to assume this is just being controversial for the sake of it, as nobody is this stupid.
Well SC was the same. Some odd powerfull moment, melody, riff kicks in, you expect something good... nope, back to basic drums, some pointless clean guitar and Anders singing weird vocal melody.
As for demographics, I noticed that too. I feel shame listening this. It's made for kids. And not all kids. Sad kids.
Can't remember the last time somebody told me they listen IF or take them seriously. We're getting old bro.
Jester Slave
Narcissist
Just read your The Truth review.
The last record had a bunch of songs which talked abount humanity's going down the drain and us destroying the planet. You hated it. Now it's about personal, emo stuff and you hate this too.
What is Anders supposed to sing about to make you folks happy?
Battles is SC with more energy, basically. My biggest problem with SC was that the structure of almost every song was exactly the same, and Battles has the same issue. It's so noticeable.
What's strange is that whilst we are getting old and wanting more mature music, In Flames seem to be getting less mature as time goes on. That kind of sucks. Their output both lyrically and musically was far more complex when I was a teenager... it doesn't seem right.
Sorry man, they've been doing this for two albums now.
Also, when you recycle old riffs, 4 notes melodies and your every solo sounds absolutely the same... i can't see how is that "reinventing"?
It is just a lack of inspiration and direction.
Not once this material gives me the urge to play something on guitar, or learn some of that stuff. It's just so flat, predictable and banal.
Jester Slave
Narcissist
Sigh, I'm curious now, tell me which songs were not following a "boring" pattern on Come Clarity?
Leeches started with the chorus, and its chorus was expanded each time. Your Bedtime Story was unique. Vacuum starts out like System, I guess that's a plus. These I recognize, but what about the rest? Most of the other songs just have varying choruses.
It's just different, man. Every song on SC and Battles sounds like it was created from a basic template. No previous albums sounds like this, even ASOP or SOAPF. Melodic intro, quieter verse w/signing, pre-chorus and/or chorus, quieter verse, pre-chorus and/or chorus, wahhh solo... practically every song. I hate how predictable it is.
And riffs. CC has a lot of amazing riffs. ANd there is also a variety of sounds. Something more modern like Reflect the Storm, some more hardcore like Scream, classic like Pacing death's trail. And many different rythms. I think that album is the one that make Daniel the happier.
The way I see it, the lyrics are direct but also curious, he's not hiding behind metaphors of metaphors, or deep mysterious hidden meanings.
Anders has done that, I don't think it has anything to do with maturity, he's just saying what he wants to say and sure, can be accessed by a much wider audience, but does that mean it's immature because he's written more direct with the album than any previous effort?
I can agree that it will hit well with the younger audiences, but does being older mean you can't enjoy this music?
I would say that the reason the lyrics are portrayed in a simple and direct way is because Anders is happy in life, he feels young at heart, and doesn't feel the need to write complex deep in thought lyrics, this probably came naturually and isn't forced, that's how I interpret.
Anders has done that, I don't think it has anything to do with maturity, he's just saying what he wants to say and sure, can be accessed by a much wider audience, but does that mean it's immature because he's written more direct with the album than any previous effort?
I can agree that it will hit well with the younger audiences, but does being older mean you can't enjoy this music?
I would say that the reason the lyrics are portrayed in a simple and direct way is because Anders is happy in life, he feels young at heart, and doesn't feel the need to write complex deep in thought lyrics, this probably came naturually and isn't forced, that's how I interpret.
Except that the beginning is a variation from Embody the Invisible (just listen starting 1:50). Though the end of the solo is pretty good.
As for the guitars that you talk in Like Sand, they are practically a remake of All For Me.
Apparently, from my own experience, yes (I don't enjoy their music and I'm the same age as they are).
No, he is just having a midlife crisis. You will understand when you reach your 40s.
Thing not exclusive to IF.
A lot of bands have the same problem. They can't write about the same stuff again, they don't have the energy they had as young people, and they are not skilled-inspired enough to make music and lyrics that go with their age.
Jester Slave
Narcissist
The reason he doesn't write complex lyrics is because he's lazy, just like the rest of the band. But let's be clear, I was absolutely fine with the lyrics on SOAPF. For me the last two albums have been lyrically diabolical, and yes, as an adult man I find it a bit weird to listen to a 40+ year old dude whining about his broken heart and being in his room. It wouldn't be so bad if the rest of the music was good enough to make me forget the lyrics, but it isn't. In fact, in the verses the other instruments practically stop to let Anders "shine", so it's impossible to ignore what he's saying.
As for Anders being happy... okay, then why are all his lyrics about how sad and broken he is?
For some laughs I suppose. I'm also an atheist, by the way.
