galvanized
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Sorry. I did not express correctly. What I meant is that he wrote the melodies for the verses vocal lines. I don't know if he also had something to do with the chorus.Are you talking about TCP as in The Chosen Pessimist? I know that Anders worked with Jesper on that song, or rather, Jesper wrote that song pretty much, didn't know he wrote the vocal lines though. I remember it from the ASOP diaries, or a Jesterhead behind the scenes extra clip back during ASOP recordings, Anders said he talked with Jesper about writing a longer different song or something like that, I don't even think Björn was involved whatsoever on that one. Where'd you hear Jesper helped/wrote Anders vocal lines as well?
Very true
I think Niclas did better with Wallflower than Jesper did with The Chosen Pessimist. Interesting that Bjorn never dabbles in the weirder songs.Sorry. I did not express correctly. What I meant is that he wrote the melodies for the verses vocal lines. I don't know if he also had something to do with the chorus.
Whoever skips The Hive is insane. This is one I really don’t get. If you say “I don’t like classic IF” or “I don’t like Whoracle” then OK. But to specifically not like The Hive is deranged while liking other songs on the album. The whole song is a perfect encapsulation of classic IF.
When I listen to that 1 minute solo I don’t even think of it as a solo. It’s like someone is talking and singing to me. Bjorns solos are these days like a couple words. The Hive solo is like a page or even a chapter in a book. It flows so well.
Why did you stop it before the solo? If there is a weak point to The Hive it’s the slow chorus, but it’s relatively short so no biggy.Okay, I stopped it at 2:07, absolute fucking borefest.
Agree, too bad the chorus is just a handful of strummed power chords. Goliaths Disarm Their Davids is better in that respect.The Hive is basically the archetype of 90s melodeath - the long lost songwriting principle of using melodies in verses instead of placeholder half-note power chords.
You all need to study Whoracle a bit more closely
It only loses minor points for the production which, IMO, is actually weaker than TJR. Something about it doesn't quite sit right with me.
That being said, Whoracle suffersfrom weaker production values, somewhat pedantic drumming and, of course, Anders' vocal performance. Anders definitely improved from TJR to Whoracle, but not by much. And the drumming is better on Whoracle than TJR, but TJR had more memorable songs.
Wow, I’m kind of taken aback with the criticisms of Whoracle’s production. To me it is perfect for what it achieves in the end. Just like TJR. And Colony. By changing the production you change the tone of each of these albums. I would never do it.
Maybe.... maybe Whoracle is a little too “hot”. But it never compresses and everything is crystal clear. I don’t see any problem. It’s just artistic discretion. I wouldn’t change a thing.
Speaking of production, I just found some midi recordings of In Flames songs on Apple Music. White Knight Instrumental is the person’s name. Probably illegal and will get shut down. So of course I listened to Davids first because that was what I was looking for. But then I listened to My Sweet Shadow which was surprisingly complicated musically. I plan to go through a lot of them and compare apples to apples if you will. MIDI, the great equalizer. Production is not a factor.It's a really minor criticism on my part. It doesn't have any effect on my enjoyment of the album, unlike STYE for example, but I do prefer the production on TJR/Colony/Clayman compared to Whoracle. A very small gripe though that I only bring up as an afterthought.
In response to one of Slave's comments regarding IF always playing The Hive on live sets, it's possible it's done on purpose to give Anders a break during those last couple of minutes. He can take a breather, have a drink of water, etc, whilst the guitarists get a nice showcase. I do wish they'd change it up a bit and play some of the other songs off Whoracle more often.
Anders is an absolute beast on Whoracle. Technically it is nowhere close to perfection, but the energy combined with large diversity in screams is second to none. Raw and brutal, as it should be.That being said, Whoracle suffersfrom weaker production values, somewhat pedantic drumming and, of course, Anders' vocal performance. Anders definitely improved from TJR to Whoracle, but not by much.