You can still be on a major label and make great music. John Mayer and Interpol are a good ex. If anything the internet is bad for music.
Is mainstream music getting worse?
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You can still be on a major label and make great music. John Mayer and Interpol are a good ex. If anything the internet is bad for music.
Seance
Still Writes in Crayon
how is the internet bad for music?
and I like John Mayer and Interpol as well. I wasn't trying to imply that major labels = bad music at all.
and I like John Mayer and Interpol as well. I wasn't trying to imply that major labels = bad music at all.
Black Core
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Seance
Still Writes in Crayon
Black Core
Sir MIMA & Leo Godfather
70% of music listeners who use the internet download illegal albums and songs wheter they know it or not
Sorry I i guess i dont like it. For me, i need the physical copy of music.
btw good to see you like those bands.
Seance
Still Writes in Crayon
that doesn't say anything about downloading being bad for music.
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-898813.html (I fall into the category of people who now spend SIGNIFICANTLY more amounts of $ on music since coming into file sharing)
http://www.p2p-weblog.com/50226711/arctic_monkeys_an_indie_success_through_p2p_and_free_cds.php
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2000/radiohead.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A34300-2004Mar29?language=printer
etc.
it's the same type of lie the MPAA spreads about movie downloading, meanwhile Pirates of the Caribbean and Spiderman and etc. set record high box office earnings in the past couple years. they're wrong about movie downloading affecting movie sales negatively, and the RIAA is wrong about file sharing affecting music sales negatively, and the evidence against their inane claims is in the face of everyone to see.
I buy 1-3 CDs a week on average. much more than the average music listener, and significantly more than most non-file sharers who have less means of discovering new music to purchase
I hope that explains my position well.
Because theres a great amount of mainstream music and you say it sucks but dont explain why. Why? Because theres no growls? Listion to interpol's two albums and then buy then buy the new one when it comes out then tell me mainstream music sucks.
For the most part mainstream music is awful. Definitely not all, but a good portion care more about fame and money than making something worthwhile, not to mention they are a record label's bitch. There's nothing artistic or sincere found in an album by say Britney Spears, and its a shame she will get all the credit when she doesn't even write the music. This is all cliche yet true and of course I'm not saying this applies to all bands, but an undeniable amount more than what you'd find in metal for example.
And I don't necessarily think downloading music is bad. I think it has a larger negative affect on more mainstream acts though than lesser known bands. I often use downloading to check out new bands, and in turn actually buy more albums in the long run. It seems that fans of mainstream bands are more interested in listening to 'hit' singles than full albums, and care for bands through a handful of songs only. Most people I know who listen to mainstream music can't even name a few songs off any given album that they listen to, and would rather just download a band's new single. Where as most fans of metal I know, care more about full albums and the band itself.
And I don't necessarily think downloading music is bad. I think it has a larger negative affect on more mainstream acts though than lesser known bands. I often use downloading to check out new bands, and in turn actually buy more albums in the long run. It seems that fans of mainstream bands are more interested in listening to 'hit' singles than full albums, and care for bands through a handful of songs only. Most people I know who listen to mainstream music can't even name a few songs off any given album that they listen to, and would rather just download a band's new single. Where as most fans of metal I know, care more about full albums and the band itself.
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Theres absolutely nothing wrong with mainstream music, people just listen to it for different reasons. Some people like a catchy tune they can dance to, and others find it inconceivable that I listen to lots of music I can't understand the lyrics to. It's all just taste and even though a lot of talentless musicians are getting a free ride while lots of talented ones struggle to get noticed, there are loads of people that enjoy their music. And thats what music is all about.
First of all, I hate Interpol, so I can and will listen to the album and say it sucks (if I can stand listening to those motherfuckers long enough). Second of all, I wasn't saying ALL mainstream music sucks, because I rarely use that word because there are always exceptions, I was merely pointing out that whenever a song that sets a record in suckiness, a new one that is even worse comes along.
As far as I'm concerned, I honestly think it is getting worse. I feel the mainstream scene is dominated by people who are merely puppets for other songwriters. I don't see anything creative in most of the music that exists out there.
Black Core
Sir MIMA & Leo Godfather
well I remember when a new cd costs only like 15 euros (about 3-5 years ago) now it costs 20 euros because less people buy it because downloading is cheaper. I'm not saying that ppl don't buy music anymore but just less people buy music.
Seance
Still Writes in Crayon
no evidence supports that less people are buying music, so you are wrong.
they do not need a reason to raise CD prices.
and you're screwing yourself by paying 20 euros for a CD in the first place. there are plenty of internet venues for much cheaper shopping.
they do not need a reason to raise CD prices.
and you're screwing yourself by paying 20 euros for a CD in the first place. there are plenty of internet venues for much cheaper shopping.
You don't need evidence or proof to know that less people are buying cds (discs or via mp3 purchasing). When you apply common sense, the fact that millions of people are downloading music for free will result in less cds being purchased. I don't necessarily think its a bad thing though, as I previously mentioned.
Is it getting worse? It hardly seems possible, but it is indeed getting worse. Once upon a time one would have to work hard for years at various clubs or halls in order to get people to notice you. Back in those days talent was THE prerequisite for having a career in music. That's not the case anymore. Instead, it's all about looks, looks and looks. There are thousands upon thousands of "singers" or "performers" who in days gone by never would have come within a 100 miles of a record deal but now rule the charts simply because of their looks. That's a reason, but not the only one, as to why our beloved metal gets frowned upon.
Then there's American Karaoke, I mean, Idol, yet another example of looks being the rule in entertainment. I may be the only person in this country who has NEVER watched a second of this cursed show, and of course to the media that shoves it down our throats, that makes me anti-American. It disgusts me that many more people in this country care about who wins American Idol than what Congress does with our tax dollars. The can name one of the judges on that plague of a show yet don't care about the recent immigration "reform" bill signed by the retard Bush and the cowards in Congress that gives amnesty to millions of illegals.
Anyways, at least I do know there are people like myself out there that DO appreciate hard work and sacrifice in music. Most aspirant musicians' careers don't pan out, but at least they're making an all out effort, the same cannot be said of what you see on tv and hear on radio.
Then there's American Karaoke, I mean, Idol, yet another example of looks being the rule in entertainment. I may be the only person in this country who has NEVER watched a second of this cursed show, and of course to the media that shoves it down our throats, that makes me anti-American. It disgusts me that many more people in this country care about who wins American Idol than what Congress does with our tax dollars. The can name one of the judges on that plague of a show yet don't care about the recent immigration "reform" bill signed by the retard Bush and the cowards in Congress that gives amnesty to millions of illegals.
Anyways, at least I do know there are people like myself out there that DO appreciate hard work and sacrifice in music. Most aspirant musicians' careers don't pan out, but at least they're making an all out effort, the same cannot be said of what you see on tv and hear on radio.
same thing about india. mainstream music in india is not getting worse cause it is already worse from its begining. there is very rare metal bands in india. indian idol like its american counterpart sucks and people here too care abt them to much. i hope metal never dies or it will be sad fate
Seance
Still Writes in Crayon
yes, you do.
I'm sorry to sound like a broken record, but this is simply not the case. You're wrong, and I've already posted evidence against that specific claim.
Also, I notice you're saying "less CDs being purchased." You're right, less CDs are being purchased. You know why? Alternative purchasing options in ringtones and paid downloads. The music industry IS NOT losing money (according to the RIAA's own statistics.) People are simply purchasing it through other means. The drop in CD sales are expected, similar to how CDs obviously took a bite out of cassette tape sales.
I suggest you read this article: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/708F20CD-E67D-45C7-AF95-3E1A6AC07C37.html
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