I hope that nobody here believes that parental(voilence) punishment do smthg positiv for the kids...
It's just ridiculous!
The roots of behaviour like that are so versatile.
I do wanna punch these 14 year old kids with no respect and "gangsta attitude", but like we all know, it would help nothing.
It's frsutrating and makes me angry but everybody has to deal with that in his own way.