you have homeowner's insurance?
if so, i can take that rig off your hands and get you all your $$ back on it, too...
haha yes i do
i'll be gone between the hours of....
lets be realistic, pt hd 3 rig
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haha yes i do
i'll be gone between the hours of....
get off the pt boat
especially if you can afford it
if they have some genious plan @ namm, then cool, jump back on board
but for now, it's a terrible place to be. unless you're recording hippies all day haha. then timing and sample accuracy doesn't matter! just hit record! that function works most of the time
actually the convertors sound alright, but its hard to judge because i'd be comparing RME pre / RME convertor to API pre / 192 i/o convertors
kinda apples and oranges, one's transparent, and one's pretty saturated
to be honest, i like the API for drums and everything, but i prefer transparency on almost everything else (bass, vocals, etc)
guitars dont really matter cuz i haz pod tact
+1
i also would recommend cubase / nuendo over pt to anyone recording music that needs to be precise or technically correct and organized. to me pt has a "off a little bit" vibe to it. like the sample rounding in bars | beat mode, and tab to transient is pretty far out from the actual beat (to my ears)
and editing drums the way i prefer was mad slow for me, too.
so if you're doing technical music, and you want precision, go with something that isn't sample rounded. even if someone comes into this thread and explains a buntch of shit how sample rounding doesnt effect anything, they'd be forgetting the fact that crossfading any peice with a 1 sample gap would be completely inaccurate in grid mode (and most of the time wont even made a cross fade at all via grid selection).
at any rate, pt has its perks when it works. but i'll recommend logic over pt, just because logic is backed by a really strong company. pt / avid / digidesign is super weak. they also stuck me with a fed ex bill they promised to pay. thanks digidesign, i mean avid....
also i should mention that pt has a ridiculous set of requirements
like, airport has to be off, and you can ONLY use "THESE" plugins (even tho some of the manufaturers are making plugins for PT, PT isn't supporting them, leading to many people buying products to fullfill needs only to find that their setup isnt supported by AVID because the plugin they NEED is broken in PT and causes the ENTIRE SYSTEM to be unstable)
talk about retarded infrastructure... seriously. a house should not break based on what light fixtures are installed
i know im ranting at this point, but it really gets me fired up. no offense pt users, im sure some of you have a great stable rig. my experience has been the direct opposite.
like, airport has to be off, and you can ONLY use "THESE" plugins (even tho some of the manufaturers are making plugins for PT, PT isn't supporting them, leading to many people buying products to fullfill needs only to find that their setup isnt supported by AVID because the plugin they NEED is broken in PT and causes the ENTIRE SYSTEM to be unstable)
talk about retarded infrastructure... seriously. a house should not break based on what light fixtures are installed
i know im ranting at this point, but it really gets me fired up. no offense pt users, im sure some of you have a great stable rig. my experience has been the direct opposite.
Öwen;9064428 said:Quick, someone PM James and tell him someone said something bad about Pro Tools
haha
luv u jamez
digitaldeath
Member
Wow, although I guess I saw it coming. I read with great interest when you were considering switching to HD and I'm stunned that you're now switching back. In fairness, I can't blame you. Every DAW has its quirks but Pro-Tools really takes the piss. Personally, I'm not a fan of Cubendo either and Reaper isn't perfect, but I'm glad that Reaper has great developers who actually listen to their customers.
Keep an LE rig around for the mandatory PT session requests and you'll be fine Joey. Stick with what you know and what will yield possibly better results in far less time.
Andy Sneap
Metal Guru
we were flipping between nuendo and pro tools on Accept and all I can say is I'm sticking with Pro Tools, works waaaay better for me, but hey it really is a case of what you are used to and how you work.
Ermz
¯\(°_o)/¯
I find tracking/editing on PT and mixing on Cubase to be the ticket for me. Even if I had the chance to move full HD I'm not sure I would at this point.
amarshism
Member
More and more it's looking like a composite course of action needs to be taken by most people to get what they want/need. I too love the intuitive tracking in pt and esp the editing and power of elastic audio. However, I love the stability/flexibility/routing of mixing in reaper. It might seem like a small deal, but I just love being able to type in fader values as opposed to holding down ctrl and sliding.
Ermz
¯\(°_o)/¯
Gotta admit that I've always disliked mixing in such a way. It seems extremely unmusical and stoic to me. I like to slide a physical fader around until it feels right. Same deal with automation, I hate drawing in lines and all that stuff. Most of the time I'm rolling the sliders and knobs with the mouse as the track plays and recording it. If I can't get it right then I finish it off with the pencil tool.
Mouse + keyboard to me are the most uninteresting way to mix. You get a lot of precision but the process is clinical and boring... like doing an excel sheet or something.
Controller has been on the agenda for some years now.
kaomao
Member
I don't know if you're referring to the fact that in PT you can't type the fader values, but iin reality it's actually possible.
Open the fader and type the value on the fader and pans as well
Open the fader and type the value on the fader and pans as well
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
The thing I'm most curious about, Joey, is how this will (if at all) affect label demands? I remember you saying before that people just always assumed you had PT and you didn't let them think otherwise, as they never asked for PT sessions or anything, but do you think you'll run into (or have you already had) any problems with not being a PT user, when it comes to working 'within the industry?'
FloridaRolf
W.A.T.
Same here, I love tracking and editing in PT but nothing can beat Reaper when it comes down to mixing (for me)
i knew joey would come back to cubendo land. ;-)
being a long time cubendo user (and by the way steinberg is not far away from where i live and work and know some people working @steiny )
user i couldnt really believe my ears that you were goign the pt way... glad you returned, hehe.
soo many great engineers working with nuendo.
btw. in germany studio standard is not pro tools, its logic.
and : i heard something about better compatibillity between nuendo 5 and pro tools... we will see. i cant wait for nuendo5!
being a long time cubendo user (and by the way steinberg is not far away from where i live and work and know some people working @steiny )
user i couldnt really believe my ears that you were goign the pt way... glad you returned, hehe.
soo many great engineers working with nuendo.
btw. in germany studio standard is not pro tools, its logic.
and : i heard something about better compatibillity between nuendo 5 and pro tools... we will see. i cant wait for nuendo5!
Mikaël-ange
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And where you come from imo. I'm not really old (only 23
) but I can work like old way (with 2 inch reel and 24tracks). And fact are I use DAW like a powerful tape machine (can't work without modern edit in today world) so PT is just 90% dreaming DAW for me (and it's why I plan to switch to PT soon, curently on cubase and it's a pita for around studio compatibility).From what I understand (and if you forgot several crash/hour report by Joey with is rig), Joey workflow didn't come from 2inch day so isn't 100% PT compatible. That the main idea imo, I don't blame Joey or PT here (Erm already better explain this idea on an other thread before). Just a basic idea.
pipaguapique
Remember Me
I think this has to do with what you started with...what you became familiar with in the beginning.
I first started with Acid (like 100 years ago), then moved to Cool Edit Pro (i still use it for radio spots and quick editing), and from there to Pro Tools (about 4-5 years ago).
I have had issues with pro tools, yeah, lots of them...who doesn't? but i dont really see myself using anything else, because im familiar with it, and right now, my system is really stable.
and to quote a good friend of mine (successful world class studio owner)
"if you are going to be in this business, you need PT and Mac, and at least one Neumann"
I first started with Acid (like 100 years ago), then moved to Cool Edit Pro (i still use it for radio spots and quick editing), and from there to Pro Tools (about 4-5 years ago).
I have had issues with pro tools, yeah, lots of them...who doesn't? but i dont really see myself using anything else, because im familiar with it, and right now, my system is really stable.
and to quote a good friend of mine (successful world class studio owner)
"if you are going to be in this business, you need PT and Mac, and at least one Neumann"
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