lets be realistic, pt hd 3 rig

[Shaun Werle]

get off the pt boat

especially if you can afford it

if they have some genious plan @ namm, then cool, jump back on board
but for now, it's a terrible place to be. unless you're recording hippies all day haha. then timing and sample accuracy doesn't matter! just hit record! that function works most of the time

Exactly, like you said the to the guy who replied to me before, Pro tools is awesome in my opinion, but no matter how much you do things right and no matter what you buy it seems there's never a time where it just works in your favor. I usually find myself buying some new gear/plug ins, as i go to install these plug ins I find myself running into problem after problem, I actually have spent weeks changing my computer to work with pro tools. As far as my OS and other stuff. But yeah the only good thing that came with the problems is, i now know a whole lot more about computers and how they work with your DAW

Pro tools great DAW I also love elastic audio.
But you'll never have a smooth ride, I am glad i am not only one.

Question what is the difference between nuendo and cubase, which is easyer or better to use.

Also does cubase have a quantize feature like pro tools?

 

[greyskull]

we were flipping between nuendo and pro tools on Accept and all I can say is I'm sticking with Pro Tools, works waaaay better for me, but hey it really is a case of what you are used to and how you work.

I think I'd cry if you did.

But fair Play to you Joey, when your mid project trying to learn a new DAW isn't exactly productive.
I did it once.
NEVER AGAIN

 

[joeymusicguy]

The thing I'm most curious about, Joey, is how this will (if at all) affect label demands? I remember you saying before that people just always assumed you had PT and you didn't let them think otherwise, as they never asked for PT sessions or anything, but do you think you'll run into (or have you already had) any problems with not being a PT user, when it comes to working 'within the industry?'

I think when labels start trying to force what you use and how you use it to make their products is the day they can do it themselves. And trust me you won't see this happen very much if at all. Labels need producers, and producers need tools. No one is going to tell me how to do my job, so to speak.

If the label demands pt compatibility, they can go somewhere else or I can offer consolidated wav files.

 

[joeymusicguy]

More and more it's looking like a composite course of action needs to be taken by most people to get what they want/need. I too love the intuitive tracking in pt and esp the editing and power of elastic audio. However, I love the stability/flexibility/routing of mixing in reaper. It might seem like a small deal, but I just love being able to type in fader values as opposed to holding down ctrl and sliding.

My right hand is always on the mouse and my left hand is almost always on the number pad. I type in every single value. Never use knobs unless the plugin doesn't have a entry box.

 

[joeymusicguy]

I don't know if you're referring to the fact that in PT you can't type the fader values, but iin reality it's actually possible.
Open the fader and type the value on the fader and pans as well

This is a half ass solution because you have to execute multiple steps to even get to the entry box. Cubendo has the entry boxes visible in three places on the screen if you have a view setup like mine.

 

[Lasse Lammert]

This is a half ass solution because you have to execute multiple steps to even get to the entry box..

no idea what you're talking about, but that's just wrong.
doubleclick into box...enter value...done.
exacly as in cubendo!

 

[C_F_H_13]

no idea what you're talking about, but that's just wrong.
doubleclick into box...enter value...done.
exacly as in cubendo!

well actually he's right. In cubase you just click on the numbers I assume and you can change them. In PT you gotta click on the fader box and then the numbers. Can't click on the numbers directly.

 

[Lasse Lammert]

well actually he's right. In cubase you just click on the numbers I assume and you can change them. In PT you gotta click on the fader box and then the numbers. Can't click on the numbers directly.

I just doubleclick on the little box with the number in it...exactly like I did it in cubase.

 

[C_F_H_13]

I just doubleclick on the little box with the number in it...exactly like I did it in cubase.

Joey's point (which we had a whole other thread about) is you can't just click the numbers/pan in the arrange/mix window. You have to click the little fader icon next to the outputs, then you can type in your values. In cubase you can just click on the numbers directly.

 

[Lasse Lammert]

Joey's point (which we had a whole other thread about) is you can't just click the numbers/pan in the arrange/mix window. You have to click the little fader icon next to the outputs, then you can type in your values. In cubase you can just click on the numbers directly.

I see...well I'm doing that in the mix window mostly....doesn't hurt that much or cost that much time to move the mouse over to the other screen..or hit "="


but speaking of..I actually thought that was also bearing a disadvantage in cubase...I liked how I could move faders with the mouse wheel...but unfortunately that also worked in the edit window....I can't count how many times I've fucked up the entire mix just cause I was scrolling up/down in the edit window and was too close to the left side.
and unfortunately in cubase fader changes are not in the undo list.

 

[amarshism]

I see...well I'm doing that in the mix window mostly....doesn't hurt that much or cost that much time to move the mouse over to the other screen..or hit "="


but speaking of..I actually thought that was also bearing a disadvantage in cubase...I liked how I could move faders with the mouse wheel...but unfortunately that also worked in the edit window....I can't count how many times I've fucked up the entire mix just cause I was scrolling up/down in the edit window and was too close to the left side.
and unfortunately in cubase fader changes are not in the undo list.

This has happened to me alot in reaper as the scroll whelk controls zoom, so to scroll down through tracks you have to go over to the fader and scroll down. Too many times I've done this without realizing, hit space and gone wtf.

 

[AdamWathan]

This has happened to me alot in reaper as the scroll whelk controls zoom, so to scroll down through tracks you have to go over to the fader and scroll down. Too many times I've done this without realizing, hit space and gone wtf.

Yeah the default shortcuts in Reaper are dumb. Go to the actions list and change the mousewheel to scroll instead of zoom. You can also disable the whole "mousewheel moves faders" thing in the preferences. The best part about Reaper is the customization options and the actions list, if you aren't using them then you are SERIOUSLY missing out on huge workflow improvements.

One day I'm gonna post my reaper.ini file with my prefs, as well as my keymap and all that other fun stuff. The way I have Reaper setup it is like the fastest DAW on earth, and it's also a really easy switch for PT guys because I have everything mapped to be exactly the same

 

[digitaldeath]

Yeah the default shortcuts in Reaper are dumb. Go to the actions list and change the mousewheel to scroll instead of zoom. You can also disable the whole "mousewheel moves faders" thing in the preferences. The best part about Reaper is the customization options and the actions list, if you aren't using them then you are SERIOUSLY missing out on huge workflow improvements.

One day I'm gonna post my reaper.ini file with my prefs, as well as my keymap and all that other fun stuff. The way I have Reaper setup it is like the fastest DAW on earth, and it's also a really easy switch for PT guys because I have everything mapped to be exactly the same

Make it happen!

 

[smashcla]

http://twitpic.com/uqhlr

Remember that day Joey? I bet you were very happy last holidays haha. Now you think all that stuff are piece of junk haha.

 

[Josh Burgess]

Yeah the default shortcuts in Reaper are dumb. Go to the actions list and change the mousewheel to scroll instead of zoom. You can also disable the whole "mousewheel moves faders" thing in the preferences. The best part about Reaper is the customization options and the actions list, if you aren't using them then you are SERIOUSLY missing out on huge workflow improvements.

One day I'm gonna post my reaper.ini file with my prefs, as well as my keymap and all that other fun stuff. The way I have Reaper setup it is like the fastest DAW on earth, and it's also a really easy switch for PT guys because I have everything mapped to be exactly the same

I'd like to try that out. Post it up when you get a chance.

 

[everybody's x]

The thing I'm most curious about, Joey, is how this will (if at all) affect label demands? I remember you saying before that people just always assumed you had PT and you didn't let them think otherwise, as they never asked for PT sessions or anything, but do you think you'll run into (or have you already had) any problems with not being a PT user, when it comes to working 'within the industry?'

That's why I got m-powered and an maudio 2496, cost me next to nothing and I can dump anything to a pt file without having to spend 6 billion dollars for AVID's proprietary shit. I cant wrap my head around $3-5k for 8 channels of I/O, are you fucking kidding me?

To the guy who asked about cubase vs. nuendo, nuendo has a lot of post-video options but other than that it's pretty much identical minus the price difference.
I jump from Nuendo 2 to cubase sx3 and they are pretty much interchangeable for recording audio.

 

[C_F_H_13]

One day I'm gonna post my reaper.ini file with my prefs, as well as my keymap and all that other fun stuff. The way I have Reaper setup it is like the fastest DAW on earth, and it's also a really easy switch for PT guys because I have everything mapped to be exactly the same

Dude send that shit over. If you can show me some sort of system that'll work similar or identical to PT, I'll switch right now lol.

 

[AdamWathan]

If you have skype or msn pm me and I'll give you the run down. It's not identical but it's quite close in most major areas.

 

[joeymusicguy]

http://twitpic.com/uqhlr

Remember that day Joey? I bet you were very happy last holidays haha. Now you think all that stuff are piece of junk haha.

haha yeah it sucks

i could have a nice car right now, but instead i have this load of shit

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Can't you try to return this shit?