Males and Females

It's not really the area that I live in that's the problem, there are lots of atheists around here. It's my fault really, because I'm not looking for sex, so to speak. Since I'm not looking for sex in the short term (obviously I am in the long term), I don't act overtly sexual with girls that I am getting to know. I would rather take sex off of the table for a while until I know that I really care for somebody. If you take this approach with 90% of women, you are in the friend zone. I know how to appeal to the 90% of women that my particular approach does not work for, but taking that route makes me feel like I'm lowering myself and compromising on some of my convictions. So, I go after girls that are also not looking for sex in the short-term, but they all turn out to be very religious. It's a bit of a conundrum that I've worked myself into.

when a girl meets a new guy, she very quickly, very firmly, and unchangeably decides whether or not she's going to be willing to have sex with him in the first minute or so of meeting him
something you're doing in the first few seconds of meeting a girl is making the girl put you into the category of "guys i'm never going to sleep with in a million years", the problem you're having is that girls feel the need to have male friends, and something you're doing is making each girl still want to be talking to you after she decides she's never going to sleep with you, so trying to "get to know" a girl before deciding whether or not you're going to sleep with her isn't going to work becuase if you wait too long to start trying to get into her pants, she's gonna be confused, she's gonna be like "why didn't he try to fuck me the day he met me?" if you wait too long to tell her she's pretty, then telling her she's pretty will actually make her feel ugly because she'll wonder why you didn't tell her how pretty she was the first day you met her

i'll explain better tommorrow
 
when a girl meets a new guy, she very quickly, very firmly, and unchangeably decides whether or not she's going to be willing to have sex with him in the first minute or so of meeting him
something you're doing in the first few seconds of meeting a girl is making the girl put you into the category of "guys i'm never going to sleep with in a million years", the problem you're having is that girls feel the need to have male friends, and something you're doing is making each girl still want to be talking to you after she decides she's never going to sleep with you, so trying to "get to know" a girl before deciding whether or not you're going to sleep with her isn't going to work becuase if you wait too long to start trying to get into her pants, she's gonna be confused, she's gonna be like "why didn't he try to fuck me the day he met me?" if you wait too long to tell her she's pretty, then telling her she's pretty will actually make her feel ugly because she'll wonder why you didn't tell her how pretty she was the first day you met her

i'll explain better tommorrow

When I find a girl that I'm interested in, I'm always sure to compliment her on her looks and I try to make it obvious that I'm interested in her. However, I avoid doing the whole "I wanna get up in dat ass" spiel because it has always seemed somewhat barbaric to me. Of course, I would like to "get up in dat ass" but not just for the sake of the act itself. I would much rather have sex with a woman that I care for. I've gone after women just for the sake of having sex but I've found it to be rather empty feeling. I don't like that you have to have sex first, and find out if you like them later. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
 
Met a girl tonight who reads Robert E Howard, and such a thing alone made me extremely interested in her. I almost never experience that the girls I talk to while out are genuinely into anything that I'm into, which is starting to get depressing to be honest. It feels like I always have to adulterate myself to keep a discussion going when for example talking about music. Some girl will go "I like metal", but then sure as hell the bands she listens to are only Rammstein or Marilyn Manson. With this being a music/nerd forum I assume I'm not alone in often feeling like this? Or perhaps it's a small town curse, since big cities tend to provide more options for alternative interests and gathering points related to them.
 
I avoid doing the whole "I wanna get up in dat ass" spiel because it has always seemed somewhat barbaric to me.

if you do this^^^ with every woman you see, you'll eventually find a woman that will have sex with you
it's how ghettoville gangster thugs get laid
 
When I find a girl that I'm interested in, I'm always sure to compliment her on her looks and I try to make it obvious that I'm interested in her.

if you're really truly making it obvious that you're "interested" in her right up front, then there's somesort of non-verbal cue that she's doing that you're missing, where it's detectable right from day one that she's never going to sleep with you, but you're just somehow not seeing the non-verbal sexual-rejection message becuase she's still continuing to talk to you long after she's definitively decided that she's never going to sleep with you, it's okay that you're not "hearing" the non-verbal message because most males have the same problem when talking to females
 
Of course, I would like to "get up in dat ass" but not just for the sake of the act itself. I would much rather have sex with a woman that I care for. I've gone after women just for the sake of having sex but I've found it to be rather empty feeling. I don't like that you have to have sex first, and find out if you like them later. Shouldn't it be the other way around?

for a lot of men, the sex comes first, they even have a term for it, it's called "test driving the car" basically it means seeing if she's "good in bed" before deciding whether or not to "date" her

also
sex just for the sake of having sex can be fun if you get into the right frame of mind
last night i had sex with a woman that i'll prolly never get to have sex with ever again, i'm in a social situation where i'll prolly see her every day from now till i get my money in 7 more business days, but i actually realized it was going to be a one-night-stand in the middle of intercourse, and it was still enjoyable, i'm prolly going to be able to have sex with some other people before my money gets here, and i'll prolly have a completely different woman move in with me when i get my apartment, but the one-night-stand was still fun
 
Met a girl tonight who reads Robert E Howard, and such a thing alone made me extremely interested in her. I almost never experience that the girls I talk to while out are genuinely into anything that I'm into, which is starting to get depressing to be honest. It feels like I always have to adulterate myself to keep a discussion going when for example talking about music. Some girl will go "I like metal", but then sure as hell the bands she listens to are only Rammstein or Marilyn Manson. With this being a music/nerd forum I assume I'm not alone in often feeling like this? Or perhaps it's a small town curse, since big cities tend to provide more options for alternative interests and gathering points related to them.

if you want a girl that reads the same books as you, go meet a girl in a bookstore, if you want to meet a girl that's a juggallette, go flirt with girls at the gathering of the juggalos, if you want a girl that's into anime, go meet girls at A-Kon or Anime-Fest, or just meet girls on facebook where the girl already knows your interests from your facebook wall before she even starts talking to you
 
It seems like a lot of people prefere Jail.

partially depends which jail you're in
in texas, the actual "prison" is actually more comfortable than most of the "county jails", especially Dallas County

but with the nice county jails (like Denton County for example) for a lot of people "county jail is a step up" from their crazy-fucked-up-all-to-hell lives that they have when they're outside of jail
 
My life came back together apparently, because I misheard what some girl I'm seeing said, as she was walking away.
 
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EDIT: It's pretty important to show your true intentions asap and not become girly friends while waiting for a good moment to strike.

THIS. You have a window of time since you meet a girl to get lucky, but also how you approach during that time determines her reaction toward you.
 
Meh, I'm currently dating a girl I was friends with for a few years before hand. Given I was married during a good portion of that time, but nonetheless, I don't feel that always applies.
 
THIS. You have a window of time since you meet a girl to get lucky, but also how you approach during that time determines her reaction toward you.

some women the "window of time" is really short, like only the first day or first few days after she meets you

@monoxide: You know you can use the multi-quote button.

i didn't see the multiquote button till just now

thank you for pointing out that it was there
 
last night i had sex with a woman that i'll prolly never get to have sex with ever again, i'm in a social situation where i'll prolly see her every day from now till i get my money in 7 more business days, but i actually realized it was going to be a one-night-stand in the middle of intercourse, and it was still enjoyable

this cigarrette-smoking woman decided to get dressed in the middle of the night, saturday night, using her lighter as a flashlight, coudln't find her panties, put her "low rise" pants back on without underwear, and walked around all day with a short shirt and butt-cleavage showing all day sunday, she didn't want to be by herself so i followed her to eat breakfast here

http://soulchurch.org/events.php

then lunch here

http://inthestoryline.com/2008/07/28/second-chance-cafe-the-bridge/

and the whole time she was walking around showing butt-cleavage
after lunch she went to go pan-handle money to buy beer and only after she left did i realize that i somehow had her underwear in the huge knee-pocket of my cargo-pants, since i didn't know where she went to panhandle, i ended up spending all day yesterday with her underwear in my pocket :loco: