Males and Females

[uhhhhmmmm4]

So if I say I'm Black, I can be black, even though I'm Caucasian with Caucasian European ancestry?

 

[uhhhhmmmm4]

So when I fill out a form (whatever it is, i dont give a shit) and im neither male or female, what do i put in the gender section?

 

[Baroque]

I'll be honest because why not.

I'd probably let one of you gay/bi dudes give me oral. I might even reciprocate. Penises don't bother me that much, they're nice to look at sometimes. I did mututal oral once with a friend and it ruined the friendship but anyway...

Anal/hairy bodies/muscly bodies, that's just nasty. I'm only attracted to the female figure.

As such I'd probably have sex with a shemale if she really took care of herself and looked feminine enough. That's about as gay as I'm going though. Vastly prefer women. I don't understand the attraction to men.

 

[Nephilim96]

You honestly think this is even remotely comparable? Don't be that fucking dense - at least not willfully.

It was in response to this...

It is fucking weird and nonsensical to give preference to someones body over their mind in determining who and what they say they are.

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Honestly, it isn't even a matter of choice. You don't choose your Sex, I agree with you there. No transperson would ever choose to be born in a body that conflicts with their gender identity - but they were born that way.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

... and fixed ("Gender" to "Sex")

 

[Mort Divine]

Yes, but you can choose to become a trans man or trans woman. But that's not the same thing as being a man or a woman.

...You can identify as a Christian or an Atheist or whatever I would like in regards to religion, but you can't biologically be a Christian. "Being" Christian is simply a concept, just like gender identity is simply a concept. You can chose to identify as whatever you'd like, just like you can chose to identify as a member of a certain religion, but you can't just chose your Biological Sex. If you have a Penis, you are not a Woman.

Bullshit, you do NOT choose your gender identity.

 

[uhhhhmmmm4]

What chooses your gender identity?

 

[Mort Divine]

Your brain.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...l?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news#.U30S9stWCXA

 

[Master_Yoda77]

Meh to this conversation. This is more important:

 

[uhhhhmmmm4]

Meh to this conversation. This is more important:

Haha youre right

 

[Nephilim96]

Bullshit, you do NOT choose your gender identity.

And what you're talking about doesn't fucking mean anything because we don't identify as our biological sex - we identify as our gender.

We choose to identify as a certain gender. Somebody with Gender Dysphoria chooses to identify as the Gender they would like to be, but people with Gender Dysphoria can also choose to suppress their true feelings, and identify as the gender that corresponds with their biological sex, as many do or have done.

You can't choose your Gender Identity, but you can choose to accept or deny your true Gender Identity. Somebody born as a man, but feels like a woman, can choose to identify as such, and even dress and/or surgically modify their body to legally identify themselves as such, and thus you get a Trans Woman. But a Trans Woman is not the same thing as a Woman. Especially a Trans Woman who still has their Penis from birth.

 

[Mort Divine]

I'm not even bothering with this shit anymore. At least you're not a hateful piece of shit like TB.

 

[Mort Divine]

Here is some Meg Turney to bring this thread back to what you lot want it to truly be

 

[MasterpieceMesias]

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Honestly, it isn't even a matter of choice. You don't choose your gender, I agree with you there.

So how the fuck are you going to say that jailey bay guy isnt a man/male or get butthurt when i referred to him as one?

I really don't give a shit what people want to do with themselves. You can go wear a silk thong, miniskirt, a tube-top and lipstick for all i care. It's just sad to think that one day my kids(if i have any) are going to have to grow up in this cesspool ... actually as of right now, im almost sure i dont even want to bring kids into this filthy world(but that's a whole nother story which i have plenty of reasons for, so dont jump to conclusions and get all homicidal on me).

You can identify yourself as whatever the fuck you want, but that still doesn't change the fact that you are a MAN/MALE ... and to say otherwise is just ridiculous. Also, I just dont see how or why me calling that guy a he would get you so mad? Go and grab yourself a box on bonbons and cry it out sweety.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

 

[SentinelSlain]

Whoa, calm down Nancy ... dont get your panties in a bunch.





Exactly. You're either born a male or female, being a man or woman isn't something you get to fucking choose. Only in this day and age will you find people who are so seriously sick and fucked up in the head, such as mort, that they have to question such things.

You ignored the second part of my post but it was kind of important, there are people of interderminate sex who are, for example, born with internal testes where you would expect ovaries and no womb.

 

[Mort Divine]

Because Bailey Jay is a woman.

She did not choose to be.

Simple as that.

How is this some sign of the world declining? I really don't get how THIS is what makes you think the world is a cesspool.

 

[uhhhhmmmm4]

Thats good, but CAN we do better?

 

[Nephilim96]

Familiarize your mouth with an exhaust pipe, you sociopathic waste of goddamn air.

You try too hard with your insults.

 

[Mort Divine]

You try too hard with your insults.

I get a bit wordy when I'm mad. Oh well.