Males and Females

The thirsty comment was related to the general nature of this thread. I'm thirsty, I just keep it in house with the missus.

Hedonism as a guiding principle is childish. You can be fine with that, but it is what it is. A squirming little newborn is a hedonist.

@Mort: Isn't everything just a "choice"? #nothingmatters
 
NoumeGnon said:
#nothingmatters
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My little brother is having a kid. He is only 22.

I am 25 and have none. Don't want any until I am financially secure and have fully given up my hedonist tendencies.
 
I've been talking to this chick for a while, we have good chemistry and seems she is into me. But we're both too busy to find time to meet up anytime in the near future.

Ugh, I'm going to be alone for a very...very long time lol. I've accepted it at this point
 
I'm loyal to the person I'm with and definitely don't party much. But having a kid, to me, is essentially a hobby. A life long hobby, one I'm not interested in. For some its the most rewarding, and good for them, but I personally just have too many other interests to dedicate myself to offspring.

Maybe it is a selfish thing, but keep in mind I rub said boyfriend's back all the time literally and figuratively. So it might be a bit unfair of you, Noum, to jump to conclusions about people like that. You're sounding a bit like a bitter parent right now and you're usually one of the cooler people here.
 
Being selfish isn't an absolute condition. Hell, we are all selfish at times. But particular reasons for not having children are selfish reasons. Kids are a challenge, but I wouldn't trade mine for anything, especially not for more party possibilities.
 
This is all a bit redundant, we have to say that because kids can't be returned.

It's like the dude with a circumcision going on and on about how it's better etc, because it can't be undone so he has to accept it.

Having a kid is a lifetime project, I never wanted a kid but it just happened because I was an irresponsible teen, I have nothing critical to say to anyone that decides to not do that shit in their life, I really don't see it as selfish either, at least not in the sense that it's anymore selfish than anything else we do.
In fact, you could say that having kids is selfish because it's the only way to preserve the self in any real way.

Meh.
I especially can't fault a woman for not wanting kids, fuck that shit.
 
I still want to live the rest of my party life, especially since I didn't get to throughout high school.

If that makes me "selfish" in Dak's eyes (I don't think it does, it's my life and I'll live it how I please without judgment), so be it.
 
Not having kids is not having kids.

Fuck the 'it's selfish' bullshit. Some people don't want kids, and regardless of the reasons for this, it's fine.


Those that argue that it's selfish always seem to ignore that one of the major reasons for people not having kids is that they can't, and it's pretty fucking cunty to preach to or around them about how selfish and immoral being childless is.

When there are so many people, and so many kids without parents, having a kid because you want one, for whatever reason, is just as selfish as not having one.
 
CASSETTEISGOD said:
In fact, you could say that having kids is selfish because it's the only way to preserve the self in any real way.
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It doesn't though. Having kids is the original "paying it forward". You could adopt if you would prefer that, but I don't see many foregoing having kids because they plan to adopt instead. That would cut into party time.

CASSETTEISGOD said:
Meh.
I especially can't fault a woman for not wanting kids, fuck that shit.
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Now that's the damn truth. I was present for the whole ordeal for both of mine, including a red light running dash for the hospital with one. On the flip side, between pregnancy and breastfeeding, no period for well over a year, so a small silver lining.

Who said anything about people who can't? I'll even file people who legitimately can't afford to under "can't". I'm in the boat now - it would be irresponsible to have any more children atm. But it certainly isn't because it's going to cut into muh beer money.
 
CASSETTEISGOD said:
In fact, you could say that having kids is selfish because it's the only way to preserve the self in any real way.
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This x1000. Every decision we make, we make because we want to feel better/more valued/proud etc. Whether you want or don't want kids, your decision is based on what do you think is best for you, thus you can say everything we do is selfish.
 
i'll choose beer and whores over kids any day

but if i did have one by accident i'm pretty sure i'll end up loving him/her and cut down on my vices
 
I dunno. I think "partying" and "hedonism" are not the reason a lot of us don't want children. I think it's more to do with the fact that so many young adults feel burnt out about humanity. Growing into adulthood and realizing you can't raise a kid in the world you want to raise them in, exactly how you want to raise them (too many rules, stupid other parents, strangers are potential enemies not friends, etc), is a big bummer. Potentially another "selfish" hump to get over? Maybe. Adulthood is a slow process. For a lot of people from upper-middle class backgrounds, full adulthood happens at like 30.

Still not having a kid until I've sat on it for at least a year straight and still think it's a great idea.
 
I'd want to raise a kid in a way that I think would be pretty hard without relocating. I don't like the culture of the people who are here.
 
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