i just tried equing my guitar abit on my sound card just to see what it's like to let room to the bass and drums and i got to admit it sounds pretty sharp and nice
mesa rectifier vs peavey 6505
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Ok, now keep those settings, and record it if you can. Post them up here as an mp3 (www.yousendit.com) You can put a fake e-mail address, just upload the file, and it will say "here is your sponsored link" copy that and put it in here for us to listen to.
Write those settings down. Then go on from there, keep messing with it and see if you can get it any closer to what you're looking for. Good luck.
~006
Write those settings down. Then go on from there, keep messing with it and see if you can get it any closer to what you're looking for. Good luck.
~006
It sounds a lot like the quick mix I usually get for tracking bands.
What I usually do here is we have a Mackie 32x8 analog console. And I'll have the drums coming in on like 1-12, or whatever, I mic everything:
Top snare, bottom snare, toms, kick, hat (pencil condensor), ride (pencil condensor), and then I will mic every cymbal with a condensor. Two room condensors, and then a dynamic in front of the kick drum, but like 2 feet back, like a Beta52 or something that will catch some woomph (acts kinda like a subkick in a way). What I do with those is I do the real compression on the drums before it hits the DAW that way everything is leveled out. Then I do like a quick EQ on the drums using the board, just to notch out the toms to make them slap, and get some of the bad mids from the snare, make the kick clicky, roll off all of the overheads, and then I setup the panning. Then I let him track. I don't do the serious mixing/eq'ing until we get ready for bass guitar.
Those drums sound like my quick mix, only my kick drum is usually a lot fatter and has a better click to it. The cymbals, hats, and snare sound almost identical to how I do it at first. Not bad, it's a great starting point, seriously. I never have problems getting the sound I want once it's at that point.
~006
What I usually do here is we have a Mackie 32x8 analog console. And I'll have the drums coming in on like 1-12, or whatever, I mic everything:
Top snare, bottom snare, toms, kick, hat (pencil condensor), ride (pencil condensor), and then I will mic every cymbal with a condensor. Two room condensors, and then a dynamic in front of the kick drum, but like 2 feet back, like a Beta52 or something that will catch some woomph (acts kinda like a subkick in a way). What I do with those is I do the real compression on the drums before it hits the DAW that way everything is leveled out. Then I do like a quick EQ on the drums using the board, just to notch out the toms to make them slap, and get some of the bad mids from the snare, make the kick clicky, roll off all of the overheads, and then I setup the panning. Then I let him track. I don't do the serious mixing/eq'ing until we get ready for bass guitar.
Those drums sound like my quick mix, only my kick drum is usually a lot fatter and has a better click to it. The cymbals, hats, and snare sound almost identical to how I do it at first. Not bad, it's a great starting point, seriously. I never have problems getting the sound I want once it's at that point.
~006
so how do we get the cymbals and everything else to sound better? lol. We're gonna try those methods out when we retrack things this summer, but right now we're trying to do what we can with what we have.
And it sounds like your method is mixing as you go sort of...we didnt mix it that much before hand, we're doing it after the fact...
And it sounds like your method is mixing as you go sort of...we didnt mix it that much before hand, we're doing it after the fact...
Well, I get the basic sounds from the beginning. I don't just mic everything up and say "go!". I make sure everything is leveled out with a compressor, that way I get no clipping whatsoever. And I get a basic eq on the board so that it records that eq'ed sound. But then I go in and get all surgical with the eq'ing after it's recorded. So I kind of do a lazy eq at first. Heh.
The cymbals sound fine eq wise, you could always compress them to make them all even that way you don't have one jump out at you when the drummer uses it.
~006
The cymbals sound fine eq wise, you could always compress them to make them all even that way you don't have one jump out at you when the drummer uses it.
~006
ok i'll send some mp3's but i'm going to my amp today so i'll send sound from the recording output and with the box so you'll be able to see if the box messes something up and i also am going do record with my old esp kirk hammet so we'll see which guitar has the best sound
so don't go too far
so don't go too far
Nitronium Blood
UM BOARDS' JESTER
Andy, why are you suggesting the 81?Andy Sneap said:
James has convinced most of us with the 85. Don't you feel the same way?
Andy Sneap
Metal Guru
i wich i you could play with my pickups you'd love them and AE records would be even more of a slaughter
well got to go working on the sound again
stay tuned
well got to go working on the sound again
stay tuned
Brett - K A L I S I A
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cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
listen to the sound of my guitar you'll see if it's an euphemism
its taken from the slave out from my rectifier don't listen particularly to the eq because i don't have a nice sound yet but the two sound clips are with exactelly with the same settings same gain i assure you
this is the esp KH with the emg 81's
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CBIRE7ZIKXDQ3OJMFBDWXIVRW
and this is my new guitar listen the notes are much more detailed and the palm mute is not creapy you'd have to add gain to have the same with the 81's
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CBIRE7ZIKXDQ3OJMFBDWXIVRW
now i know the sound is not nice but seriously you got to admit my pickups are better
its taken from the slave out from my rectifier don't listen particularly to the eq because i don't have a nice sound yet but the two sound clips are with exactelly with the same settings same gain i assure you
this is the esp KH with the emg 81's
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CBIRE7ZIKXDQ3OJMFBDWXIVRW
and this is my new guitar listen the notes are much more detailed and the palm mute is not creapy you'd have to add gain to have the same with the 81's
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CBIRE7ZIKXDQ3OJMFBDWXIVRW
now i know the sound is not nice but seriously you got to admit my pickups are better
silverwulf
Ghost in the Machine
If you're using the same settings on both clips, it's very likely that your passive pickups sound more defined to you because you're probably pushing less gain with those passive pickups as compared to the active EMG's on the same settings. Hence, why we said you needed less gain (and bass) on your settings previously...
yep but when i'll have a pretty sound i'll post more and you will see they are powerfull !
after that i cut the frequencies from 20 to 160 Hz so i don't spoil the bas and the drums and i also cut really high frequencies to let the snares do their jobs and the sound is better than before
after that i cut the frequencies from 20 to 160 Hz so i don't spoil the bas and the drums and i also cut really high frequencies to let the snares do their jobs and the sound is better than before
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
here's the right one this time
the sound is still ugly but it's my guitar this time enjoy
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CEJR0P21G02M0NC89NR7NH11A
the sound is still ugly but it's my guitar this time enjoy
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CEJR0P21G02M0NC89NR7NH11A
