Hitori said:
I see what you mean but personally, if someone didn't have the habit to read, I wouldn't recommend James Joyce's Ulysses as a first try, but something more adequate to the person's experience and reading stage.
if we're comparing reading and listening to music i would have to agree: i'm not going to submit someone who's not into music of any kind to a sudden listening session of very complicated bands. still, not being into metal hardly equates to not being in the habit of listening to music at all. and i
would recommend james joyce to someone who's been reading albert camus or jules verne or irvine welsh. i presume the recipient of this compilation already has some interest in rock/pop music at the very least, otherwise - again - it's a battle i can't win and i won't waste time on it.
Music is of course a whole different matter, but by "catchy and accessible" I didn't mean "not intricate or representative of the band/sound", rather a song you think the person will be able to like.
what do you mean? i do find that most catchy and accessible songs are not intricate. they might be representative of a band's sound, but if they are i sort of take it for granted that the listener will enjoy that band without fine-tuning his taste much at all. for instance, it doesn't really take any fondness for metal to appreciate paradise lost's
one second. i daresay 80% of the world population would find it perfectly allright. and it's representative of the band's sound (at least for that period), too, but i fail to see the purpose of adding something like that to a record aimed to convert someone to songs which are, ultimately, far more complex and far less melodic than that.
auctioned does not prepare anybody for
crimson winds.
I wouldn't have been able to even perceive the subtleties. I (and again, maybe it doesn't happen to those more musically oriented) needed to develop some "ear" for it.
this is true to a degree, but i find it hard to believe that one can change from considering something utterly shitty to actively crave for it. now of course some will raise their hands to prove me wrong, but i won't accept it, damn you!
because i'm convinced that even back when one didn't like, say,
entombed, he had a general tolerance for death metal and a desire to return to it and find it out whether there was more to please the ear than what was immediatly obvious.
anyways, imo this is all being overanalized, no wonder people don't start threads here if there's gonna be so much nitpicking
people - and i don't necessarily mean you - start very few threads here because they're not willing to debate their point of view with those who have a different opinion. the level of conversation has dropped to a low hum, and every time somebody raises his voice to make his point (whether it's a valid one or not) this is considered anti-social and a detriment to the community. personally, i think this helps everyone become oversensitive old ladies, happy in their harmless social habits and terrified of even the most friendly confrontations. still, i don't really mind if you don't want other users to point out things they disagree with in your threads: i mostly avoid posting here anyway and, ultimately, nobody will miss yet another list of 12 songs i think may be appropriate for future metal listeners.