Metal for the Parents

[mutantllama]

I like some rap.

 

[S<issors]

I like how he avoids saying "rap can't have good lyrics" since rap is obviously centered around the lyrics.

I think you misread that. His point as I understood it was that metal is focused on the "music" (meaning, not the lyrics) and rap is focused on the lyrics; metal sometimes has good lyrics, too, but rap never really has good "music."

Which I more or less agree with tbh, and yes I've listened to plenty of weird indie rap and such. If it has "good music" involved I think it stops being rap and starts being rap-rock.

 

[Ben_t]

Sharing music with your parents sure sounds complex...

You have to carefully chose songs so your parents don't have a negative impression and think less of you because of the music you listen to. Then you need help to justify your interests and will even argue that it's better then rap if your parents react negatively to it.

So I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve...looking good in front of your parents or really showing them what you like. Personnaly I think the second one is more important but I get the feeling that you're more interested in the first statement.

 

[Zephyrus]

Well most of those songs are my favorites. What I think I'll do is just send them the songs with a couple bullet points on each song, just to help them listen to them properly. Then whatever they have to say, I'll hear in person and explain myself as necessary.

 

[BlackMetalWhiteGuy]

Uh... can't say bagpipes come to mind when I think "pretty"...

What about, like, harps or violins?

Er-hu.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

I think you misread that. His point as I understood it was that metal is focused on the "music" (meaning, not the lyrics) and rap is focused on the lyrics; metal sometimes has good lyrics, too, but rap never really has good "music."

Which I more or less agree with tbh, and yes I've listened to plenty of weird indie rap and such. If it has "good music" involved I think it stops being rap and starts being rap-rock.

Ah, that makes more sense.

In that case, then yeah - rock definitely has some advantages over rap.


edit: Actually, I think "R&B" is a much better characterisation of rap + real melody/singing. It could be argued that R&B is just as much 'music' as rock is - just with different overarching moods and themes.

 

[Nikki]

Im taking my mom to Rotting Christ next month.

 

[NinjaGeek]

Uh... can't say bagpipes come to mind when I think "pretty"...

What about, like, harps or violins?

It depends on the type of bagpipe, Uilleann pipes for example have an extremely nice sound.

 

[Zephyrus]

I've decided, rather than giving them two separate CD's, I'll give them a single comprehensive mix of songs. I've cut it all down to 11 songs, which accurately capture my tastes across all my genres of interest.

Limbonic Art - "In Abhorrence Dementia"
Mercyful Fate - "Evil"
Satyricon - "Dark Medieval Times"
Summoning - "Where Hope and Daylight Die"
Pentagram - "Broken Vows"
Nokturnal Mortum - "Perun's Celestial Silver"
Borknagar - "The Winterway"
Countess - "Lof Der Germaskerde"
Alatyr - "Hviezdy"
Opeth - "Face of Melinda"
Arcturus - "Evacuation Code Deciphered"
Borknagar - "The Winterway"

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

It has Hviezdy so everything else is unimportant.

 

[cookiecutter]

It has Hviezdy so everything else is unimportant.

 

[Zephyrus]

Burning now.

 

[skeptik]

Now that I think about it, my parents are probably fairly decently exposed to the various sounds of different types of Metal since the family computer is in a central location and I play music all the time. Pretty much whenever I'm playing extreme metal and my father walks by, he can't help but make fun of the growls. He also always jokingly asks "is that Burzum?" and feels smart when it actually is. I like to show them some of the stuff others seem to be worried to show their parents because it amuses me. You know, like tell them about Rotting Christ and Hellhammer, or how awesome Heaven's On Fire or Christian Resistance are. And of course album covers are always important, especially LP covers. They just 'love' Blasphemy - Blood Upon The Altar. They know perfectly well that the music doesn't influence me to do 'bad' things, so they really can't object.

 

[Mort Divine]

I think you misread that. His point as I understood it was that metal is focused on the "music" (meaning, not the lyrics) and rap is focused on the lyrics; metal sometimes has good lyrics, too, but rap never really has good "music."

Which I more or less agree with tbh, and yes I've listened to plenty of weird indie rap and such. If it has "good music" involved I think it stops being rap and starts being rap-rock.

13 & God, cLOUDDEAD, General Patton vs The X-ecutioners, Miri Ben Ari, anything RJD2 related, etc. all have fantastic music and don't go into the realm of 'rap-rock.'

 

[CAIRATH]

Now that I think about it, my parents are probably fairly decently exposed to the various sounds of different types of Metal since the family computer is in a central location and I play music all the time. Pretty much whenever I'm playing extreme metal and my father walks by, he can't help but make fun of the growls. He also always jokingly asks "is that Burzum?" and feels smart when it actually is. I like to show them some of the stuff others seem to be worried to show their parents because it amuses me. You know, like tell them about Rotting Christ and Hellhammer, or how awesome Heaven's On Fire or Christian Resistance are. And of course album covers are always important, especially LP covers. They just 'love' Blasphemy - Blood Upon The Altar. They know perfectly well that the music doesn't influence me to do 'bad' things, so they really can't object.

Yeah same for me.

I have always played music quite loudly (I had my own attic room so it was kind of okay, though) so it was kind of difficult for my parents not to somehow experience my music. My mom plays the piano and eventhough I wouldn't call her musical taste particularly openminded (she plays and listens pretty much exclusively to classical music) she does recognize the musical value of other stuff even if she doesn't like it. Infact she quite often mentioned that she actually likes that I am into these "weird" things and the fact that I have such a varied collection of stuff and that I am so passionate about it. I've shown her a few metal things that she could atleast somewhat appreciate (milder stuff like Opeth and other bands people have mentioned in this thread already).

My dad is just not a musical person at all and really has no distinguishable music taste whatsoever. He just puts stuff on when he's working ocasionally and always says that he likes "anything that is slow and quiet" so he mostly listens to (to my ears) bland singer/songwriter type stuff and has no real knowledge of or interest in any music in particular. He basically thinks most of the stuff I listen to is terrible and noise but he never complained about it aside from the volume its played at ocasionally.

I'm glad I don't have judgemental parents. I've never felt the need to defend myself or my musical tastes.

 

[S<issors]

listened to envy, extremely unimpressed

emo still pretty much sucks IMO

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

But it's different than what you originally assumed it to be

 

[zoidberg]

my grandma like limbonic art.

 

[mutantllama]

Metal Granny!

 

[Hubster]

I second the Burzum. even if you have just the slightest appreciation for classical composition, Burzum's ambient material will do the trick.

This is true, especially in the case of Hliðskjálf.

Zeph - if your father has any appreciation for early Baroque Music, particularly that of Claudio Monteverdi, or perhaps high Baroque, such as Bach, then he might appreciate Hliðskjálf because of the way it references battle music of these times. of note, Monteverdi and Bach both wrote some of their music around the organ.