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Chinese Whispers said:
I will say this. Arasmas has had the most interesting (or at least the most thought provoking) posts around here lately.
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He just posts things that pretty much anyone knows and tries to make it sound like something he came up with, and tries to say them in a way that will get people pissed. Worst part is that it's working, this is my second post in this 9 pages long topic :erk:

I think the person who tries to be cool and smarter than the rest of a forum should actually have something of value to say, otherwise it's got no point. Except of course making stupid threads about obvious things that gets people pissed, and Arasmas is great at that, and more than anything, it shows what level this forum is on.
 
I thought his Opeth song countdown thread was a good one, and this thread also got me thinking about people within the 'metal sub-culture' - although I don't feel the need to contribute it all here. And you can't say about the key of the song he got owned on wasn't entertaining.
 
Chinese Whispers said:
I thought his Opeth song countdown thread was a good one, and this thread also got me thinking about people within the 'metal sub-culture' - although I don't feel the need to contribute it all here. And you can't say about the key of the song he got owned on wasn't entertaining.
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People who become a part of any music sub-culture will be defensive about it tbh, not just metal.
I just find it funny that when a person has squeezed the juice out of metal in general or any other genre, they get the impression that they've grown past that musical stage starting to lecture people who still like this music how you should be. It can just as well be the other way around, just look at steven wilson...he hated metal the first decade writing music for PT, suddently with opeth he sort of grew into metal since he had looked past the 99.9% of all crap in metal.
 
Koi said:
People who become a part of any music sub-culture will be defensive about it tbh, not just metal.
I just find it funny that when a person has squeezed the juice out of metal in general or any other genre, they get the impression that they've grown past that musical stage starting to lecture people who still like this music how you should be. It can just as well be the other way around, just look at steven wilson...he hated metal the first decade writing music for PT, suddently with opeth he sort of grew into metal since he had looked past the 99.9% of all crap in metal.
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No, I agree. If you are going to attack someone's lifestyle, of course they will probably react. But I take the piss out of meathead culture all the time, because to me it is complete ridicoulousness, but I still like it anyway. Like most of these kind of things, it can take itself too serious sometimes.
 
Nasty-Fire said:
:lol: meathead

...but I think metal can be serious. Samm Dunn's documentaries explain it very well I believe. It's often a social thing, and I totally agree with this.
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Oh, it should be serious - and I certainly take the music seriously, for the most part - but you have to be able to see the funny caricature of it. I'm not sure whether Dunn's documentary is neccessarily a great example of it though. Some of it is just cringeworthy to me (no documentaries have really been able to capture it though). There have been plenty of better books that examine it.
 
I don't know, that's the only serious thing I saw about metal I think. And though it doesn't totally gives the right view of metal, I think it's almost that. Matter of fact, you have to live it to understand it, not with documentaries.
 
Going to outline Arasmas' argument, I'm seeing the light now.

1) People should listen to only "good musicians" rather than music that they actually enjoy listening to. Sure many of us metalheads and all the rap-obsessed kids out there will be pissed off for a while, but their heads will be full of Beethoven and Coltrane, so who the fuck cares if they're not getting any enjoyment out of music.

2) Everyone who listens to music purely for enjoyment is retarded. This is non-negotiable, you actually are mentally disabled. Forget music, good luck passing the "special boy" school down the block.

3) Opeth, Metallica, and Black Sabbath are classics. Because other metal bands don't sound exactly like them, they should basicly just go commit mass suicide and rid our planet of their metal nonsense.
 
Lateralus14 said:
Going to outline Arasmas' argument, I'm seeing the light now.

1) People should listen to only "good musicians" rather than music that they actually enjoy listening to. Sure many of us metalheads and all the rap-obsessed kids out there will be pissed off for a while, but their heads will be full of Beethoven and Coltrane, so who the fuck cares if they're not getting any enjoyment out of music.

2) Everyone who listens to music purely for enjoyment is retarded. This is non-negotiable, you actually are mentally disabled. Forget music, good luck passing the "special boy" school down the block.

3) Opeth, Metallica, and Black Sabbath are classics. Because other metal bands don't sound exactly like them, they should basicly just go commit mass suicide and rid our planet of their metal nonsense.
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You say all that like it is a bad thing :Smug:
 
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