Furious B said:5 x 8 = 40.
Nasum is not punk. They are grindcore, and grindcore is not punk. Grindcore is a metal subgenre. Punk is stuff like The Bouncing Souls, Weston, Operation Ivy, The Descendants, The Dead Kennedies, Screetching Weasel, etc.. All of those bands have simple, repetitive music.Listener1254 said:Have you ever heard of the grindcore band Nasum? They aren't typical grindcore like every song sounding the same. their songs actually vary and don't sound alike. They have a cd with 38 songs on it in 45 mins. Judging by the fact that they don't repeat a riff, wouldn't it be tougher to make a cd like this than an 8 song cd like Cryptopsy does? Cause you have to think of 38 different riffs just to make the songs sound different and if you have more than one riff per song, that's a shitload of riffs. Cryptopsy has about 5 riffs per song perhaps or is it more? WHat do you think?
\Life Sucks said:Nasum is not punk. They are grindcore, and grindcore is not punk. Grindcore is a metal subgenre. Punk is stuff like The Bouncing Souls, Weston, Operation Ivy, The Descendants, The Dead Kennedies, Screetching Weasel, etc.. All of those bands have simple, repetitive music.
Reverend Bizarre said:Dark Angel - Time Does Not Heal
Dark Angel's last album. The Promo sticker says : "9 songs, 67 minutes, 246 riffs"
Beat that. Case Closed
LuminousAether said:Nasum are grindcore, which is a subgenre of hardcore, which is a subgenre of punk. It is not a stretch at all to call Nasum punk, and they are MUCH better than Cryptopsy, especially talentwise.
This is what I thought.LuminousAether said:grindcore, which is a subgenre of hardcore, which is a subgenre of punk.
I dunno. Cryptosy's riffs are extremely technical and well written, and they really almost never repeat a single riff. And in addition to all the tech riffage there are crazy fills or bridges in each song. To be honest, I haven't really heard much Nasum. It is possible that there may be more actual riffs per song on a Nasum CD, but they aren't as complex or technical as Cryptopsy's riffs. But true punk, such as Screecing Weesel, Bouncing Souls, Decendents, etc. is much simpler and easy to write than metal. It is very repetitive. I used to actually like the Decendents, but I do not any more.Listener1254 said:\
i realize that but isn't it harder to make a cd like Nasum does than Cryptopsy does? Caue my point is you have to think of 38 different riffs and if there's more than one riff per song thats over 70 riffs. Does Cryptopsy have that many riffs on their cds?
Life Sucks said:Nasum is not punk. They are grindcore, and grindcore is not punk. Grindcore is a metal subgenre. Punk is stuff like The Bouncing Souls, Weston, Operation Ivy, The Descendants, The Dead Kennedies, Screetching Weasel, etc.. All of those bands have simple, repetitive music.
This is exactly what it comes down too. I wouldn't call 3 power chords a very complex riff. You may say that palm muted open string riffs aren't very complex either, but more punk is made of power chords than metal is of palm muted open strings.Interesti said:Grindcore is a subgenre of Punk.
This argument is ridiculous, it's the quality of the riffs, not the quantity that matters. It's easy to write a shitty song with 50 riffs.
Listener1254 said:So one band makes it true for the whoel metal genre? WOW!