Most complicated music

[BigJim]

No one's mentioned Cryptopsy yet?!

P.S. Meshuggah are WAY overrated! :Smug:

 

[Mr_Haze]

Spastic Ink are much more complicated than these bands you're listing

Listen to them and shutup

http://www.ronjarzombek.com/aquanet.mp3
http://www.ronjarzombek.com/multimasking.mp3
http://www.ronjarzombek.com/maddatarace.mp3
http://www.ronjarzombek.com/178thing.mp3

Here's some Spiral Architect while I'm at it

http://www.spiralarchitect.com/clips/insect.mp3
http://www.spiralarchitect.com/clips/moving_spirit.mp3

And this will be mentioned sooner or later so here's a track from Gorgut's Obscura (the album's known mostly for the dissonance in song writing but most classify that as 'technical')

http://www.galyrecords.com/mp3/gorguts/gorguts_la_vie_est_prelude_192.mp3

 

[Phrozenspite]

Gorod and Spawn of Possession both rule... however neither band really utilizes any sort of complex note relation for more then maybe half a song per album...
Spastic Ink and Spiral Architect don't really have a whole lot outside of technical skill...(well ok Spastic has a lot of dynamics)...
and Obscura wasn't so much a complex album as it was just an out of the box thing that makes you go what the fuck... I'd say the most recent comparison is Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God in that respect but i'm sure thats going to piss someone off oh well.

and if we're going to get into classical... Paganini and Shostakovich

 

[MasterOLightning]

Gorguts is pretty fucking complicated.

 

[Mr_Haze]

They have two 'guitar lesson' videos on http://www.guitar.com/VideosMain.aspx?ParID=G which shows how they do some of their riffing. It's pretty awesome.

 

[Entropiastrife]

Bach

na, bach was a genius and certainly wrote many virtuoso pieces, but the chord progressions/key changes/structure are usually somewhat straight forward. To people who study/have degrees based on his music, it is easy. I would say something like ravel, chopin, listz, or rachmaninoff would be the most complicated music because the structure and chords used are much less predictable and often times atonal (but in a musical way) which makes things much harder to grasp.

and I dont listen to much jazz, but it uses some chords that would make even the fastest metal wanker run and hide

certainly no metal would even be CLOSE to this description of most complicated music

 

[Thoth-Amon]

na, bach was a genius and certainly wrote many virtuoso pieces, but the chord progressions/key changes/structure are usually somewhat straight forward. To people who study/have degrees based on his music, it is easy. I would say something like ravel, chopin, or rachmaninoff would be the most complicated music because a lot of it was atonal or very unpredictable and therefore difficult to learn and harder to grasp.

certainly no metal would even be CLOSE to this description

Actually I have a BA in music theory & comp. I was thinking specifically of his 6 voice fugue. Which is staggering. Yes harmonically there are more complicated composers... Wagner for example is much more chromatic. Or Stravinksy is more complicated in terms of rhythm. OK how about Elliot Carter?

 

[Phrozenspite]

na, bach was a genius and certainly wrote many virtuoso pieces, but the chord progressions/key changes/structure are usually somewhat straight forward. To people who study/have degrees based on his music, it is easy. I would say something like ravel, chopin, listz, or rachmaninoff would be the most complicated music because the structure and chords used are much less predictable and often times atonal (but in a musical way) which makes things much harder to grasp.

and I dont listen to much jazz, but it uses some chords that would make even the fastest metal wanker run and hide

certainly no metal would even be CLOSE to this description of most complicated music

I agree with you about classical... however some of the elite metal bands are at a higher level of skill then most jazz musicians... not to mention that Jazz usually lacks structure and is prone to repetition even in improvised material...

 

[CF87]

Gorguts is pretty fucking complicated.

From Wisdom to Hate for example. Luc Lemay was really expirimenting with chords rather than seeing how many notes he could hit in a song like a lot of tech death metal bands. The band still had sense of song writting and individuallity between songs. The entire band sounds together and organized rather than sloppy mess like say 'once was not' by cryptopsy. Instead of cryptopsy making solid tech death metal the band brought in cliche metalcore elements.

 

[Entropiastrife]

Actually I have a BA in music theory & comp. I was thinking specifically of his 6 voice fugue. Which is staggering. Yes harmonically there are more complicated composers... Wagner for example is much more chromatic. Or Stravinksy is more complicated in terms of rhythm. OK how about Elliot Carter?

heh I am working on a ba theory/comp! Dont know if I am going to stick with it though (Im not genius composer and yet want money). But anyways yeah, there is no denying bach could do more with two voices than most composers could do with an entire symphony. But bach was just far too musical to be the most complicated, plus he is one of the most studied composers, so his music better understood and less difficult because of it.

 

[Base Delta Zero]

I hope you are kidding.

I wasn't.

 

[Zivilyn]

Classical. Not a metal band.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

heh I am working on a ba theory/comp! Dont know if I am going to stick with it though (Im not genius composer and yet want money). But anyways yeah, there is no denying bach could do more with two voices than most composers could do with an entire symphony. But bach was just far too musical to be the most complicated, plus he is one of the most studied composers, so his music better understood and less difficult because of it.

I'm a decent composer but not great, better than most of the other comp. students I knew at school anyway. However I'm actually planning on getting into nursing school. My field of study in music was so narrow and my playing skills are shite so my chances or making a living in it are slim.

 

[Entropiastrife]

Classical. Not a metal band.

thread said metal or otherwise, aka other genres...

I'm a decent composer but not great, better than most of the other comp. students I knew at school anyway. However I'm actually planning on getting into nursing school. My field of study in music was so narrow and my playing skills are shite so my chances or making a living in it are slim.

maybe you could go to grad school and get a degree to teach? thats what I was thinking of doing, either by taking enough classes to get a music ed degree or going to grad or something

just out of curiosity, what instrument do you play?

 

[Thoth-Amon]

thread said metal or otherwise, aka other genres...



maybe you could go to grad school and get a degree to teach? thats what I was thinking of doing, either by taking enough classes to get a music ed degree or going to grad or something

just out of curiosity, what instrument do you play?

that was my plan... but i want something that is pretty much a guaranteed thing. i played piano primarily but have also sang bass in choir, played numerous percussion instruments in concert band, as well as some guitar/bass.

 

[Mort Divine]

I'd like to site post-Nattens Madrigal Ulver for the most part, even though there are a few "minimalistic" albums.

Not to mention they are better than 90% of the bands mentioned on these boards.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

thread said metal or otherwise, aka other genres...



maybe you could go to grad school and get a degree to teach? thats what I was thinking of doing, either by taking enough classes to get a music ed degree or going to grad or something

just out of curiosity, what instrument do you play?

also to teach at the level that i wanted to (i.e. college or junior college) i would have to pretty much get my MA, my PHD and my credential... 4 years minimum for something that is not guaranteed and is very hard to get into.

 

[CF87]

I can't recall Meshuggah using any interesting or even decent chord progressions or notes. I recall basic single note chugging, and guitar solos that do not go with the rythmn. I would not go as far as calling the band complicated or technical.

 

[unknown]

If we're gonna say Spastic Ink, why not Watchtower?

 

[King Richard]

Yngwie Malmsteen is pretty sick. LOL

But on a serious note. I've seen Fred Durst bust out some sick ass fucking solos in my day.