Music genres that suck

[Erik]

blues and jazz are nearly just as much african american cultural music as rap/hiphop are they not? originally at least

You have no idea how deeply my tongue was implanted within my cheek when I wrote "african-american cultural music"

 

[Erik]

How can you say you hate en entire genre of Blues and Jazz?

Like so:

I hate an entire genre of Blues and Jazz!

 

[Demilich]

what? i didn't say i hated them, just that they pretty much originated among groups of african american former slaves, etc.

then white people started listening and look what happened

 

[unhinged]

btw exceptions to rules:

good punk bands:
* amebix

good "goth" bands:
* fields of the nephilim

ah you can't do this and have exceptions, because from every conceivable genre there are more bands that suck than are worthwhile

 

[lizard]

Indigenous rocks the blues baby. American Indians know what the blues is.

 

[unhinged]

Indigenous rocks the blues baby. American Indians know what the blues is.

for it is the music of the oppressed

 

[Erik]

ah you can't do this and have exceptions, because from every conceivable genre there are more bands that suck than are worthwhile

Ah but exceptions confirm the rules don't you know!

 

[unhinged]

Ah but exceptions confirm the rules don't you know!

but ifthat was the case all genres would suck

 

[Erik]

but ifthat was the case all genres would suck

which they do, it's just that heavy metal sucks less than the alternatives

 

[Demilich]

the genres themselves don't suck. if there's a single exception, it proves that the genre itself is capable of more than is conventionally achieved with it. to me, at least, that sounds like human fault, which has little to do with the genre in itself does it?

 

[Erik]

if there's a single exception, it proves that the genre itself is capable of more than is conventionally achieved with it.

more like "band X (being the good band) gets unjustly grouped in with a genre that sucks despite them being obviously different (better) than the rest"

cue some fags listing 5000 bands that sound like either amebix or fields

 

[KILL TULLY]

Demilich your taking this whole thing way to seriously brotha.

 

[Demilich]

well i won't be one of those fags, i've never heard those bands

but i still think that a single band, as long as they remain within the established framework of a genre, can prove the genre itself to be of more worth than in that band's absence

i don't really have examples, maybe i should think about that

 

[Demilich]

Demilich your taking this whole thing way to seriously brotha.

I think i talked about this in some other thread, sometimes i get really into thinking about shit critically. who knows why, but it doesn't hurt to talk about things serously, so why not?

 

[Erik]

but i still think that a single band, as long as they remain within the established framework of a genre

Well it STILL makes sense to say "genre X sucks"... Generalising is often quite practical.

 

[KILL TULLY]

I think i talked about this in some other thread, sometimes i get really into thinking about shit critically. who knows why, but it doesn't hurt to talk about things serously, so why not?

Haha, I dunno, sucks the fun out of the whole shebang sometimes.

 

[Demilich]

You know what Tully? I know it does and sometimes I notice even while I'm doing it I guess I'll try to lighten up for the sake of not dragging this place into multi-page freakouts over serious things all the time

 

[Nico]

I'm really gonna need some weed if I have any hope of following your posts in future, Demilich.

 

[Demilich]

Well it STILL makes sense to say "genre X sucks"... Generalising is often quite practical.

Yeah, definitely. I think its 2 different uses of "genre". If you take "genre" as the group of bands itself, yeah, i'd say some genres (i.e. power and death metal) pretty much suck because I like hardly any fucking bands from them, but if i were taking the genre to mean the actual style itself, the ideal, then a genre would be as good as the greatest manifestation it had achieved so far

 

[lizard]