My new song is available!

[Belial]

Originally posted by Oyo
I can't wait to get my guitar and start working on music.

Me neither. It's just a matter of time.

Maybe we can jam together and really stink the place up.

 

[Obyeybyeogone]

Do you have ICQ, I can send you the webcam vids Analog Kid made me, it's cool, he showed me all the basics in like a 30 minute video. I am ebaying my gun tomorrow, must... get... guitar

 

[YaYo]

how do u find the inspiration for songs? i find myself just looking at fretboard and pondering.

I dont FIND, it just comes.. im playing guitar one day, improvising and making up a lot of shit as always, and then suddenly i play something taht has an effect on me, or creates an image.. and from there the song writes itself, i have spent the last 2 years learning how to write songs in so many different styles and concentrating on so many different elements of song writing (tempo changes, time signature changes, all acoustic songs, all distorted songs, songs which use only 1 riff, songs which use 10 trillion, 1 minute songs, 10 minute songs, etc,etc ) that when i get an image in my mind i know how to create it.. i have the correct knowledge and tools. The original idea for a song just comes though, i never force it. For example i have no plans of when my next song will be done, it may be tomorrow, it may be in a month, who knows?

Originally posted by Belial
Would you happen to need an amateur vocalist? Haha!

Uhhhhh.... ummmm... hang on i think i hear someone calling me.
*phew, i dont think he noticed me avoid that one*


Seriously though, glad you liked it Oyo and Belial!

 

[Belial]

Originally posted by Oyo
Do you have ICQ, I can send you the webcam vids Analog Kid made me, it's cool, he showed me all the basics in like a 30 minute video. I am ebaying my gun tomorrow, must... get... guitar

Yeah I got ICQ, though I rarely use it. I'll PM you my number.

 

[Manbient]

wow that was really cool Yayo! I'm in the process of writing/recording a song too, even same kinda style, but mine so far isn't so god hehe I have a few questions... how exactly did you record it? I am interested in recording direct to my PC because my BR-8 has lots of things i don't like too much about it... but anyway details man hehe, i know you use cooledit but i'd like to know what else you use.. do you go direct line in to your PC wit hthe guitar? anyway if you could help me i'd be happy heheh. Also what do you use to compress your MP3's? For some reaon lately it seems like the one i use to encode has some weird kind of high piched digital thing going on and the compression can really be heard. Once again awesome song! good work!

 

[Kushantaiidan]

Originally posted by YaYoGakk
I present to you: David Caswell - Forestall (9.88 MB)
My advice: Once its finished downloading wait until you're alone or theres no distractions, find a comfy seat, relax (preferably in darkness), turn the volume up fairly loud, and for 11 minutes sit back and enjoy the journey. This is how this song is intended... and this is how i listen to this song.



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SOME WORDS FOR THOSE INTERESTED:
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Well, this took a lot of effort..

Wrote the first riff as soon as the last song was done (3.5 weeks ago?).... and continued to write and create for hours every day.. and then 2 weeks ago i began recording, and again spent hours each day.. and finally the finished product is here. And i am so relieved. This seriously took a lot out of me... especially the last few days when i had to record the distortion.. tried mic'ing... sounded shit, so i spent ages getting a mix of guitar sounds and applying different amp-sims and EQ-ing till i got something decent sounding, and im pretty happy with the results! Bass was a bastard to write on sunday night, nothing went right.. but then monday it all flowed well. And drums are programmed in case you didnt know already, but still took a lot of effort to get them perfect.

This one is slightly different than the last.. no idea whether you'll all like it or not, it has different strengths and weaknesses to 'Softly'. 'Forestall' is my first attempt at writing a song to a story, every riff and every sound is carefully chosen and placed and has a particular importance and meaning in the story.. spent agessss thinking about guitar sounds, and 2nd guitar parts, and effects, and etc.. for each different riff, making sure im conveying the right emotions. I'm sure you'll notice how much the sounds change. Some of you may not like this, and some may not like the structure of the song, how it continually changes. But i cant please everyone.

hm, same as with 'Softly' this was 100% written by me with no outside help, and everything is played (or programmed in the case of drums) by me.

So i hope you enjoy it... this is almost 4 weeks of my life ive devoted to this song, and a lot of that is because i wanted it to be perfect for you people.. so i hope you appreciate my effort!

Any advice is welcome, ive taken a bit of time to listen on 5 different stereos (ranging from computer speakers, to huge $800 speakers!) and think ive got it mixed fairly well but if ive got something obviously too loud/soft/fucked then feel free to say it. And any criticism and negative comments are welcome too... if you dont like the song, or just think Softly is better then dont be scared to say so.. but it'd be nice if you could suggest why that was. Positive comments are definitely welcome, remember im not recieving any payment for any of this so if you get something from this song then telling me so would make it all worth while (either here, or by PM, or email). Even if its just one sentence.

enjoy!

The download doesn't work.

The download does not work

It doesn't work

Not working

Make it work please.

MAKE IT WORK

I've been waiting for this song!!

 

[YaYo]

Still works for me!

 

[Kushantaiidan]

it works now.

 

[Slipknot_isn't_metal]

this is awesome ...thank you (for making such a good instrumental, which i am very much enjoying right now )

 

[nevershine]

Holy Shit!!!

This is very VERY impressive!!!
The song had the Opeth effect for me...
...Just sit and live the song and when it's over
you realize where you are. Sitting in front of the
computer. Then you just have to listen to it again
that you can be in the same wonderful but obscure
place once again. The feeling is amazing. I Think I came.

 

[YaYo]

GREAT SONG!!! SWEEEEET!!!
listening it to third time in a row.
I just love you Distortion riffs!!! FECK, they sucked me into!

That section from 3:30 to 4:50 IS PERFECT! (reminds from something, dunno what it is)

Brilliant!

Coming from a Thales man this is highly appreciated!
Yeh that distortion section is a very simple riff underneath, using very common black metal type chords.. but its interest comes from the layering of guitars..

(only that ocean sound is a bit of a cliche, but so what)

hehehe, that whole little segment of rain/ocean was originally envisioned as a series of weird orchestral notes and many different types of singing (just holding notes and doing tribal stuff, and yeh... )... all majorly reverbed, all very distant... to create a dream sequence.. i had huge visions... but due to obvious limitations (ie no orchestra, no choir, no tribe... etc) i had to settle with what was possible, and the rain and ocean just kinda created a similar calm period in the song.. although as you say, cliche.

this is awesome ...thank you

Your welcome, and thank you!

wow that was really cool Yayo! I'm in the process of writing/recording a song too, even same kinda style, but mine so far isn't so god hehe I have a few questions... how exactly did you record it? I am interested in recording direct to my PC because my BR-8 has lots of things i don't like too much about it... but anyway details man hehe, i know you use cooledit but i'd like to know what else you use.. do you go direct line in to your PC wit hthe guitar? anyway if you could help me i'd be happy heheh. Also what do you use to compress your MP3's? For some reaon lately it seems like the one i use to encode has some weird kind of high piched digital thing going on and the compression can really be heard. Once again awesome song! good work!

First of all, thanks for the kind words. Second of all, i burnt a cd for a friend the other day and i burnt it straight from the mp3s, one of them was 'think', the same mp3 i put up here a little while ago. And anyway i played it on his great stereo and there were all these HORRIBLE noises! it was unlistenable. That was with the "Fraunhofer-Thomson compression scheme" using the fast codec.... (comes with cooledit). but now ive switched to the alternate codec.. takes a lot longer but i think its better quality, i havent got a chance to really test it on a good stereo yet though. This copy of forestall has some obvious sound quality losses at 128kbit (which you'd notice if you heard the original wav) but i cant hear any major artifacts and elctronic compressed sounds in it.

Recording:
Guitar plugs straight into effects pedal and straight into computer's mic input, set appropriate levels (cooledit has a little thing which tells you how loud your recording, best to get as loud as possible without clipping, makes the noise-to-sound ratio as low as possible) and press record on cooledit. Once its done i then usually use Cooledits inbuilt 'Noise reduction' to reduce hum and hiss (a good tip, when you play stay well away from any monitor or tv screen or anything electrical, dont have leads running over power cables, face the pickups away from electrical things, etc, etc.... they fuck your sound up majorly).
Then i use Cooledits EQ to get it sounding nice (this takes practice, because you have to get a sound that sounds nice in the mix, it wont sound nice by itself)... and then amp-sims go on (well actually theres an amp sim on the pedal i use, but theres also a plugin i have called Cakewalk Amp Sim, which i use afterwards)

advice: try and keep things to their own sonic space, dont have two guitars centred with the same EQ.. theyll fuck each other up, pan them slightly left and right, give one a higher sound and remove most mids, and do the opposite for the other sound.. just experiment with stuff like that to make individual guitars have their own place.. this is something Vai is a master at, he has 10004 things going and you can locate and listen to each instrument perfectly, you should start noticing how this happens, what sounds they are using...

and that brings me to more good advice.. if you want to record a particular guitar sound, then pick out your favorite CDs that have that same effect and listen to how its mixed and try and immitate it.. very useful in getting a good distortion sound when using limited equipment..

any other help you need, any specific questions you have, just ask and i shall do my best to answer!!

 

[YaYo]

Originally posted by nevershine
Holy Shit!!!

This is very VERY impressive!!!
The song had the Opeth effect for me...
...Just sit and live the song and when it's over
you realize where you are. Sitting in front of the
computer. Then you just have to listen to it again
that you can be in the same wonderful but obscure
place once again. The feeling is amazing. I Think I came.

These kinda comments make it all worthwhile

 

[Orchid]

Holy shit man, the song is awesome! Really beautiful and good stuff.

Hmmmmmmm, I want to get the Thales album out quickly so I can have at least some time for a solo project. (not the ambienty-stuff I've been doing)

 

[nevershine]

Originally posted by YaYoGakk
These kinda comments make it all worthwhile

thanks...

 

[YaYo]

Originally posted by Orchid
Hmmmmmmm, I want to get the Thales album out quickly so I can have at least some time for a solo project. (not the ambienty-stuff I've been doing)

Id hope you had time for Thales, a solo project AND your ambient stuff! Now that would be cool!

 

[Manbient]

Yayo, thanx for the recording tips! That was REALLY helpful! The version i had recorded already had the shittest sounds known to man... the idea was there but it was just destroyed by the sound of everything...

 

[Kushantaiidan]

God! I love the third guitar in the background at about 1:25 or so.

Amazing.

An Amazing song, almost made me cry, I have goose bumps.

Yayogakk, what a wonderful story you have all written us.

There's not much more praise that I can add without repeating others. I can't pick anything on this song.

We are in debt to you for providing such great music.

BE MY GUITAR TEACHER PLEASE.

 

[YaYo]

God! I love the third guitar in the background at about 1:25 or so.

Amazing.

An Amazing song, almost made me cry, I have goose bumps.

Yayogakk, what a wonderful story you have all written us.

There's not much more praise that I can add without repeating others. I can't pick anything on this song.

We are in debt to you for providing such great music.

That was nice!!
But there is no debt, the people on this forum have given me so much... I already owed the people something in return!!!

BE MY GUITAR TEACHER PLEASE.

hehe, Ive tried teaching people before, and im too impatient.. I am, however, more than willing to impart my music knowledge onto those who ask.. primarily if specific questions are asked..

 

[Rusty]

I AM NOT A HAPPY BUNNY

I'd just about finished downloading it, it was about 90% done, so I thought I'd unplug my printer and plug my speakers in. Then, clever bastard that I am, I went and unplugged the COMPUTER. Now I've just started the download again, and it reckons... 80 MINS left! Oh the pain...

YaYoGakk/David, you should post some sample lyrics here... I mean, you must have once tried writing some so let US decide whether they are good or not. C'mon, post some lyrics...

If anyone's interested, I just started recording my own first song. I'm following YaYo's advice and playing with distortion sounds... it's just really frustrating. I need beer.

 

[Manbient]

Gakk you make me mad... i was writing this song and recording and then you went out and put this out... i'll just go burn my song and never try again maybe i'll give you the idea's and you can play with them and make them better and record them well heheh... Some of the idea's are good, ask Sullen Jester, he's heard the rough guitar tracks.