General Zod
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My personal thoughts on the Kamelot situation
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mel_progson
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I'm not a huge Kamelot fan but feel the need to bring up 2 points.
1. Glenn, I get the feeling that that was a fairly ballsy move putting that out in the open. Well done sir.
2. Kamelot have handled the whole situation very professionally. In this day and age of facebook, twitter and forums all the mystery has been sucked out of alot of bands. Too many bands and celebs feel the need to overshare and I really hate it. I don't wanna know that Portnoy begged to join DT again after he got booted from his mid life crisis band, thats just too much info. Well done to the Kamelot boys for acting how they have.
1. Glenn, I get the feeling that that was a fairly ballsy move putting that out in the open. Well done sir.
2. Kamelot have handled the whole situation very professionally. In this day and age of facebook, twitter and forums all the mystery has been sucked out of alot of bands. Too many bands and celebs feel the need to overshare and I really hate it. I don't wanna know that Portnoy begged to join DT again after he got booted from his mid life crisis band, thats just too much info. Well done to the Kamelot boys for acting how they have.
Dominick_7
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I've always liked Kamelot, and Khan but also find him to be kinda limited vocally. One reason I like when he collaborates ex. Dimmur Borgirs vocalist.. Simone/Epica etc. A lot of his songs sound the same, similar range, similar vocal melodies and even lyrics etc. Almost always picture a guy with a flameld torch lifted and climbing a mountain in the darkness in order to "make a sacrifice for the truuuuuuth"!
Love Liones voice but am curious to see if or how it fits. Khan matched Kamelot. Interested to see how this plays out. Wouldn't releasing say live dvds help them in the meantime? Has Khan said which "religion"? Or is it he's just more seriously seeking right now? While i understand how this is unfortunately causing problems, and it could possibly be handled better I say good for him for searching, whether I'm the only one saying that or not.
Yea reminds me a bit of Toshi but I don't think this will break Kamelot up and I've seen no word its a cult vs a world religion. Khan was a better singer than the previous one, they've already been having substitutes and with these possible replacements they could maybe even find a better match. I also thought he was seriously sick and was concerned for him..so some clarification would be great for the Kamelot fan base. In the meantime I'm interested to hear how Fabio will sound in Kamelot.
Love Liones voice but am curious to see if or how it fits. Khan matched Kamelot. Interested to see how this plays out. Wouldn't releasing say live dvds help them in the meantime? Has Khan said which "religion"? Or is it he's just more seriously seeking right now? While i understand how this is unfortunately causing problems, and it could possibly be handled better I say good for him for searching, whether I'm the only one saying that or not.
Yea reminds me a bit of Toshi but I don't think this will break Kamelot up and I've seen no word its a cult vs a world religion. Khan was a better singer than the previous one, they've already been having substitutes and with these possible replacements they could maybe even find a better match. I also thought he was seriously sick and was concerned for him..so some clarification would be great for the Kamelot fan base. In the meantime I'm interested to hear how Fabio will sound in Kamelot.
Orb, I want to make something very clear: I used that as an example of something he could have said. It could have been the same for any other faith. I used that because it is what iI normally hear on the airwaves. If it implied that he chose Christianity, i apologize as it was not the intent. What I was doing is making an example of someone making a statement of a life-changing event. What I wrote was plainly an example only and not an expression of any truth.
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Dominick_7
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If he's taking a world religion class, as a philosophy minor, I'd be very surprised if he went the Christian route especially if he doesn't get into prolegomena (prior things) ie first principles of reason vs just a class or cursory look into logic or what not.
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nomisofsiman
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I'd have to agree completely with this post.
As far as Glenn's post, good to know some of the behind the scenes stuff not being told. If he found religion and the Kamelot thing isn't a priority, I say more power to him as much as fans would probably go nuts about hearing. I've always been a firm believer that if someone's heart isn't in it, they shouldn't be doing it. Though I don't think he should keep the band in confusion for much longer.
The Invisible Guest
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He's in that band, too? Okay, my second thought is the dude from Black Majesty ... maybe he's a better fit anyway.
Britt
nomisofsiman
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I don't really agree with that...the comparison of Conception and Kamelot that is. They are two totally different bands and Kamelot I can see appealing to more people than Conception. But I do agree that Kamelot is great on its own merit and isn't just because of the singer. Yeah, they got more popular with him, but as others have said, there are other bands who have had successful runs with multiple singers. It can happen here too. Will there be fans that drop off when Khan officially no longer becomes part of the band? Of course, but at the same time they may gain new fans.
johan68
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nomisofsiman
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Actually I think Dream Theater has handled it fairly well. Mike Portnoy? Not so much.
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As someone who started to speculate that this "illness" was much more severe than origionally thought (and "someone in the know"
kinda set the record straight at that other board I post at*wink wink and thanks for clarifying this)..
1.The fact that he isn't in grave health makes me happy because I feel one day we will hear his amazing voice in some form again,if its not in Kamelot so be it
2.Kameolt's songwriting is top notch.Khan's vocals are just icing on the cake as they say...
I am absolutely sure they would have the pick of the litter as they say if they decide to do a new vocalist search....while Fabio's voice is really not my preference as I feel they could do better,it will work for th etime being....
3.Would love to see Lance King get this gig personally
kinda set the record straight at that other board I post at*wink wink and thanks for clarifying this)..
1.The fact that he isn't in grave health makes me happy because I feel one day we will hear his amazing voice in some form again,if its not in Kamelot so be it
2.Kameolt's songwriting is top notch.Khan's vocals are just icing on the cake as they say...
I am absolutely sure they would have the pick of the litter as they say if they decide to do a new vocalist search....while Fabio's voice is really not my preference as I feel they could do better,it will work for th etime being....
3.Would love to see Lance King get this gig personally
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I wonder if religion will now be paying Khan's bills
Britt
And all of the other bills and losses folks incurred as a result.. (Leaves' Eyes, to name one).
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AeonicSlumber
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Dude, finding religion means finding religion. There are a million better euphemisms to imply that there were ownership issues with the other guys in the band. Additionally, they've been together for how long now? Why would they be squabbling over earnings NOW and not earlier on? Not to mention, holding the band's activities hostage yields the exact opposite effect in regards to earning money. If the situation was that dire, he should've outright quit (or the main songwriter of the band, and the one with the largest ownership of its property could kick him out). But yeah, that's not the case at all.
Secondly, you'd be reaaally suprised. There are TONS AND TONS of Christian musicians that keep their Christianity a secret from the public, or try to as best as possible because the image of their band is secular and personal beliefs shouldn't have an impact on that. Most bands want to be non-denominational, so unless it's a Christian band, it's usually horrible for a band's image for a dude to come out as religious.
Additionally, the reconciliation of that secular, non denominational image and those religious beliefs, can be hard sometimes.
AngraRULES
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It's a matter of taste. I checked out the new Spiritual Beggars as well and didn't care for it a single bit.
I understand you worship these guys, but to me, a comment that's not very intelligent would sound like this:
"Paris Hilton is a good singer."
"Freedom Call is an original band who's at the top of the Power Metal scene."
"Angra's guitarists are not very good."
"ProgPower USA's lineup sucks."
"Khan is a traitor, he ruined Kamelot."
I was in the gee-hope-he's-okay camp; even burnout is an understandable impetus for his actions. But to drop everyone's collective ass in the dust for *religion*? Short of the Final Judgement occurring right this minute, I can't imagine what about it was so important that it was worth screwing over so many people - why he couldn't have completed at least his short-term obligations, or even not gotten involved in a new album and tour in the first place if he knew this was coming.
Class act, that.
Class act, that.
johan68
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It's a matter of taste. I checked out the new Spiritual Beggars as well and didn't care for it a single bit.
I understand you worship these guys, but to me, a comment that's not very intelligent would sound like this:
"Paris Hilton is a good singer."
"Freedom Call is an original band who's at the top of the Power Metal scene."
"Angra's guitarists are not very good."
"ProgPower USA's lineup sucks."
"Khan is a traitor, he ruined Kamelot."
True I guess, I'm just not so into negative comments about musicians. If I was I would have piped up about the Kahn situation earlier. However, I'll keep that to myself.. He He...
AngraRULES
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True I guess, I'm just not so into negative comments about musicians. If I was I would have piped up about the Kahn situation earlier. However, I'll keep that to myself.. He He...
I hear you. At no time I actually thought you were being 100% serious about that. Therefore, I replied with a bit of sarcasm... lol
All good though.
