New opeth cd

Fantastic album, GR had to live up to a lot to topple TGE as the best album this year, but after my 3rd listen it clicked and I'd have to say this is the best Opeth album since Still Life. Theyre both excellent albums, and TGE isn't too far behind GR as best album of 2005 (for me anyway).
 
am i the only person who thought it wasn't anywhere as good when compared to previous opeth releases? i found it too repetative and overall boring.
was it what opeth said it would be? yes. i liked 4 tracks off the album. I like how they are experiementing. every band has to do this. nevermore has done this as well - took a more 'death metal' approach on the new record for a few songs. i just found this album to not live up to other opeth records and it took some of the ideas off of Deliverance and expanded on them and made it much MUCH darker. Deliverance is also one of my least favorite opeth albums. do i think the album as a whole sucks? fuck no. it had some great tracks on there. i just can't see myself enjoying it much sitting on my playlist. i gave it a few listens. didn't stick with me. the last track was by far the best. probably cause it was short and to the point. what made opeth for me was the amount of changes they took in one song and they all connected. i found this album to have less changes and more repatition of the same.
Opeth is one of my favorite bands, and will continue to be. my favorite albums are still life, blackwater park, and orchid.
 
Hey, I love Opeth as much as any metal fan out there. They are one of those great bands that let the music do the talking period. A true style of their own. Still, Nevermore always hits me hard with that combination of melody, speed, heaviness and technical ability...every single time. I will get the GR for sure when it comes out but I don't see the point in coming out here and bashing TGE in the Nevermore board :confused:

Both bands are excellent, each in their unique way. That's my take :headbang:
 
Im not to keen on comparing the two honestly. To me, Nevermore is band that generally you either like or hate. This isnt universally true obviously, but most people I come across feel that way. Opeth on the other hand (at least to me) has a more varied fan base it seems. For example, many love their early work, and despise their latest albums. Morningrise is probably one of my favorite albums, but I never hated their later albums the way many seemed to. After listening to both albums several times though, I think TGE definetly wins. I really do like Ghost Reveries, and it is growing on me, but Nevermore just seemed to create a simply crushing album this year. Definetly a contender for album of the year for me. Again though, simply my thoughts on the matter.
 
the phish said:
the thing with the new album is that its just another opeth release. Its still VERY good, but again, just another opeth album. Nevermore is one of the few bands that releases a great nevermore album all the time that at the same time is significantly better than the last.
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Someone has ears that work as well as mine do.

This has been my main gripe with Opeth since I became a fan years ago. Each new album they put out is ALWAYS solid, but they also ALWAYS sound the same. Heavy music with an interlude and clean vocals in each song. Nevermore always surprises...and always progresses. I havent heard the new Opeth yet, but ill definitely be getting it as soon as it's released.

np - nothing
 
I'm glad I read this thread...I can relax now! I was worried with the new shitty label and the stupid nu-metal tour they were gonna bend to the mainstream....whew!!!!!!!!:hotjump:
 
Devy_Metal said:
This has been my main gripe with Opeth since I became a fan years ago. Each new album they put out is ALWAYS solid, but they also ALWAYS sound the same. Heavy music with an interlude and clean vocals in each song. Nevermore always surprises...and always progresses. I havent heard the new Opeth yet, but ill definitely be getting it as soon as it's released.
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Are you kidding, man? NO Opeth album has EVER sounded the same and that is still true to this day. Sure, the heart of their style is the same (growling mixed with clean vocals, acoustics, etc.) but fuck, new elements surely arise. MAYH imo was their 100% metal piece - the perfect metal album. Still Life then came along and sounded NOTHING like MAYH. This is where I think the "proggy" nature of their sound has begun, except this album had this very elegant "jazzy" feel to it. BWP was a completely different thing altogether, where it was mostly very atmospheric/ambient featuring some very crazy/eerie guitar work. They took the "still life" formula and created something new with it. It was a more darker album, I think.


Anyway, I cannot accept the fact that Opeth has made albums that sound the same. Shit, look at Metallica's past albums's - that would be the PERFECT example of a band not progressing with their style - well, until recently that is. Good music, but it was all the same. Opeth is one of the few bands out there right now that actually DOES progress and change. I think Opeth have earned so much respect in what they do with their music, that it is inevitable that there will be a few negative remarks about them from a few people out there, no matter what it may be.



I heard Ghost Reveries once, and yes, I very much so liekd what I heard. Ghost of Perdition and TGC are the two tracks I still remember for I have heard both over 20 times (or more.) I only heard the album once and I can tell it may very well end up being one of their best album's to date. I don't remember the other 80% - heard the cd only one time, and I think I like it this way. I'll wait for further listens until the album comes out. But seriously, from the quick listen I took, this sounds like it will be one heck of a beautiful album, even though it isn't as metal as say, MAYH was.


As for Nevermore - haven't heard the new album yet. I was never a big fan of Nevermore's music/sound (but mostly, the vocals), but from the positive feedback I hear on the new album, I am actually kinda intrigued now. Maybe this album will convert me. Plus, my friend's have been anticipating it for a while now. I'll definitely check it out (which is why I stopped in this forum in the first place ;).
 
Devy_Metal said:
Someone has ears that work as well as mine do.

This has been my main gripe with Opeth since I became a fan years ago. Each new album they put out is ALWAYS solid, but they also ALWAYS sound the same. Heavy music with an interlude and clean vocals in each song. Nevermore always surprises...and always progresses. I havent heard the new Opeth yet, but ill definitely be getting it as soon as it's released.

np - nothing
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wow..this album doesn't sound anything like anything else they've done. Ghost Reveries sounds like Andy Latimer of Camel suddenly got pissed off and decided to write death metal. THe 70's prog influence is stronger in this than it has ever been (aside from Damnation)
 
PratlPoet said:
I can't see them running out of they stay true to their style now...they are simply amazing and four of the most talented musicians I've ever heard. Needless to say that's another release I'll be waiting for to hit the stores!

Still, i'm not going to get into a debate with these morons...the Opeth board goes down and they migrate here and bring their inspid brand of infancy with them...it's not welcome here!
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You're being as just of a whiny bitch with that post as Opeth posters stereotypically are . If you weren't so ignorant, you'd notice that hardly anyone from the Opeth board has posted in this thread except for maybe moonlapse and myself..I'll have to look again. If the regulars in this Nevermore board are so friendly and non-childish, then I guess that's a load of crap because there seems to be alot of hatred on purpose, without even knowing anyone first. You people are so pretentious I swear.
 
well like I said, I havent HEARD the new Opeth album yet. If theyve progressed then good for them. I have a few Opeth albums...Still Life being my all time favorite, and matter of fact GodHead's Lament is one of my favorite songs, but I just dont see ALL that much variation. But, Im surely not as into the band as you are, as youre not into Nevermore as much as I am. So, we can agree on that.

As far as true progression goes...no band or musician has truly shown the definition of that as much as Devin Townsend. Here is a man who NEVER EVER released anything that sounds the same.
 
Hey Devy Metal. While I agree with you about Devin, saying that Nevermore progresses is the most asinine thing I've ever read about anything in my entire life. Thanks for the laugh. Opeth went from Orchid and Morningrise to Ghost Reveries. JUST LISTEN and if you don't think there's been progression you need to chop your ears off.
 
AGALLOCK SORRY to tell ya, opeth were never anything, even trying hard to be whatever genre....the people that follow them around and look hard into their music/craft art...are asinine.
TRUELY, THEY NEED A GOOD KICKING INTHE HEAD...FOR PUTTING fender strats with marshall amps...
 
both bands have progressed. just in different ways. nevermore focuses more on the songwriting aspect and including different types of metal sub-genres in their music.
opeth takes influences from other older bands and more progressive approaches.
both bands progress. thats pretty obvious to me. i personally prefer nevermore's progression though. opeth's new album is too experimental for me. it reminds me greatly of porcupine tree, a band i only like various songs from, who experiemnt alot with ambiance. the new opeth for me had too much of this. i wish they would create more the feel of BWP or still life, but every album they come out with is different, so i'll have to like the ones i like and hope their next effort is one in the direction i like.
 
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Agalloch said:
Hey Devy Metal. While I agree with you about Devin, saying that Nevermore progresses is the most asinine thing I've ever read about anything in my entire life. Thanks for the laugh. Opeth went from Orchid and Morningrise to Ghost Reveries. JUST LISTEN and if you don't think there's been progression you need to chop your ears off.
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and you listen to the nevermore self titled and then this godless endeavor and tell me they havent progressed either.
 
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