drew_drummer
Dancefap
feel = spot = perceive
I cannot play electronic drums at 128 buffer size. It has to be 64 at least.
I cannot play electronic drums at 128 buffer size. It has to be 64 at least.
New Pro Tools Hardware
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Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
So is hunger, now let's drop the whole Winer debate before it its even started, thank you.
Still wondering where the upgrade price can be found?
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MetalJonesy
more metal, more booze!!!
AudioGeekZine
arsehole know-it-all
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Analog Inputs 4
Analog Outputs 8
Mic / Instrument Inputs 4 (2 simultaneous inputs at a time)
= less than a 003
Useless
Analog Outputs 8
Mic / Instrument Inputs 4 (2 simultaneous inputs at a time)
= less than a 003
Useless
pipaguapique
Remember Me
^ haha that's just straight up stupid!
I'm glad i modded my 003. Im really happy with it...i really really wish i had ADC though, but that's it. that's the only thing i want. I'm staying with Pro Tools just because i really like the work flow and the mixing environment. But if i ever have the money to upgrade, im sure it will be a full upgrade to HD. Right now HD Native it's not worth 6k for me just to get ADC and Input monitoring.
I'm glad i modded my 003. Im really happy with it...i really really wish i had ADC though, but that's it. that's the only thing i want. I'm staying with Pro Tools just because i really like the work flow and the mixing environment. But if i ever have the money to upgrade, im sure it will be a full upgrade to HD. Right now HD Native it's not worth 6k for me just to get ADC and Input monitoring.
AudioGeekZine
arsehole know-it-all
HD Native card and a used 96 io seems to be the best option for upgrading from LE/M-Powered.
Not the latest and greatest but it's a step up in quality with some expandability for about $4800 (96 io is 1300 on ebay)
8 analog i/o + 8 ADAT i/o isn't too bad.
Not the latest and greatest but it's a step up in quality with some expandability for about $4800 (96 io is 1300 on ebay)
8 analog i/o + 8 ADAT i/o isn't too bad.
kaomao
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Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
So I'm looking at 3300€ (minus the possible upgrade discount) for the core card and about 1500€ for a used 192. Fair enough. The thing that pisses me off, though, is that I have to get a new MacPro (3500€
to use this piece of software, even though I have a less than a year old i5 machine that has no problem running huge sessions on native DAW's, but what can you do.
to use this piece of software, even though I have a less than a year old i5 machine that has no problem running huge sessions on native DAW's, but what can you do.
AudioGeekZine
arsehole know-it-all
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Or wait if there will be some kind of connection for laptops or imacs...
Anyway I read the specifics and the mixer resolution is 64bit floating point...not bad
Anyway I read the specifics and the mixer resolution is 64bit floating point...not bad
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
you could NOT upgrade
I can't run the kind of setup I'm looking at with M-Powered. That leaves me with changing to another DAW or just paying up, and as stupid it might sound, I love the ProTools SOFTWARE (not the company behind it) so much I really don't want to make the switch. Of course, in this case, I have to decide if it's a financially reasonable decision to upgrade and if it will pay itself back in reasonable time.
Of course this isn't the time to make such hasty decisions, as Avid might be coming up with something else (although judging from the recent, eh, "mind blowing" news I really doubt it will change anything from my perspective) or this product might even prove not the be suitable for a kick-ass studio DAW but rather a prosumer home system. In the case of the latter, I'd just have to pay up for an HD2 or HD3, which what the pros have been doing this far. Who knows?
I have always been the one to say that if you want ProTools, you pay what they ask and shut up. I still stand by that, I'm merely disappointed since the new product announcement was not as groundbreaking as I hoped.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Ok, seems like HD Native has quite a few limitations. First of all, minimum of 64 samples buffer on Mac, 128 samples on Windows zombie. "Ultra low-latency monitoring" is available, but only when RTAS plugins are bypassed when tracking. Furthermore, only one stereo pair of cue mixes can be ran in the said low latency mode. This makes it actually sound like it's not all that aimed at tracking purposes.
zombie. "Ultra low-latency monitoring" is available, but only when RTAS plugins are bypassed when tracking. Furthermore, only one stereo pair of cue mixes can be ran in the said low latency mode. This makes it actually sound like it's not all that aimed at tracking purposes.
greyskull
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Ok, seems like HD Native has quite a few limitations. First of all, minimum of 64 samples buffer on Mac, 128 samples on Windows
That's the same as TDM though!
you can monitor through an RTAS plugin in HD-TDM, you have to create an AUX with the plugin you want to monitor on it and assign the Output or a send of the track you're recording to the INPUT of the aux.(Yes it IS easier in LE... )
That's just the way the TDM architecture works.
Send is easier as you can just make the aux inactive later.
It'll probably be the same as that.
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
Heh, that's actually true. Anyway, what about the upgrade price? Where did you find it?
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I gave Digital Village a call this morning and they'll sort me out the native card for £2400 when I trade in my old LE system. That was just talking to someone on the sales team. I think if I ordered an HD I/O with that (and some other stuff I have on a quote) I could get a really competitive deal. The dude I deal with price matches everything including Thomann so it really doesn't seem that bad. An 8-core mac pro on the other hand...
Jarkko Mattheiszen
The FU guy.
If so, could he share it then? The last time I called DV247, the service I got was so utterly crappy and I was forever in queue, I don't feel like calling again.
The last time I called DV247, the service I got was so utterly crappy and I was forever in queue, I don't feel like calling again.
