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mutantllama
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That was balls/shit/awful, I want to hear the guy who plays Ser Jorah Mormont in Game of Thrones reading the lyrics to that in this manner:
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Jimmy... Dead.
contemplative curmudgeon
So I got into an argument with a girl at work about Diamonds. I told her I thought that diamonds are intrinsically worthless stones whose popularity and value are a recent creation, the result of a concerted marketing efffort by a monopolist cartel whose control on its market makes Microsoft look like amateurs..... BLAH!
She replies with the same shit I always hear from dumb selfish cunts "you're just cheap" or "you don't know what you're talking about" or "Canadian diamonds" lol
Would or have you guys ever buy/bought diamonds? I have and I regret it after doing some basic research.
She replies with the same shit I always hear from dumb selfish cunts "you're just cheap" or "you don't know what you're talking about" or "Canadian diamonds" lol
Would or have you guys ever buy/bought diamonds? I have and I regret it after doing some basic research.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
Actually, the whole "diamonds are forever" trope plays into that. Simone de Beauvoir theorized that women wearing jewelry represents the imprisonment of women within social constructions, while the men are able to move forward and redefine values post-Nietzsche-style.
Einherjar86
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I've bought diamonds. I don't regret it, because my girlfriend of over three years likes the jewelry I buy for her. She knows diamonds are intrinsically worthless, as is gold, as is oil, as is money, etc. It's by a fetishism that we perceive value to be inherent within useless objects like gold (although diamond does have some utilitarian worth in that it's actually the hardest solid).
That said, "diamond" has risen to occupy a specific symbolic role from which it cannot be evacuated even if everyone agrees that it possesses no natural value (there's no such thing). It was actually poignant of Zeph to mention that joke, "Diamonds: that'll shut her up", because jokes like that actually do nothing but further the ideological belief that diamonds possess value. In joking about the worthlessness of the object, and mocking our choice in buying it by saying we only do it to keep our women quiet, we rely on others' understanding that diamonds are, and have been, widely believed to possess value (and that women are simple-minded creatures who can be pleased by shiny things). The joke actually solidifies the illusion by illuminating its parameters. It relies on the ideology in order to work.
This is the whole point of Žižek's theorem "they know what they do, and yet they do it anyway"; in trying to be subversive, we actually only contribute to the beliefs as we simultaneously mock them.
Dak
mentat
Interesting you should say that Einherjar. I have been arguing with some people about money, and how it works, and how there is nothing special about gold and silver as money vs paper.
Edit: No I have never bought diamonds, and never intend to.
Edit: No I have never bought diamonds, and never intend to.
Lost Wisdom
The Lovely Seagull
Cronopio
Glorious Imperator
Diamonds are a girls best friend if she has no problem hanging out with people who, at best, exploit cheap third world labor and, at worst, regard human lives a commodity they can take advantage of at their leisure.
Most I've done is bought my girl a silver talisman. I have no objection to the concept of diamonds but they're not particularly attractive so probably not. Wouldn't do it just to keep a bitch happy.
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
The Emptier
t3h b3aSt0rZ
Jimmy... Dead.
contemplative curmudgeon
Money & oil is imperative to my survival. How can you possibly compare them? Diamonds are worthless. The people selling them are fucking pigs. They're heavily invested in selling a world where men are insensitive, thick-headed incompetents transparently trying to dupe women who are vain, superficial, materialistic fools. No joke there. Although I typically tend to be on the "eh, it's just a joke" side of things, but the sheer repetitive insistence of the cynical stereotypes in diamond advertising is astonishing.
skeptik
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Money and oil are imperative to our survival because we made it so. We could just as easily use diamonds as currency as we did with gold or chickens or paper. Diamonds are valued for their aesthetic beauty, and have been for centuries, as have many 'precious stones'. I'm sure there are also some other latent, vestigial religious/occult/ritual reasons that we as a society not only diamonds, but other precious stones as well.
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It's pretty much shiny shit. Pretty much all societies have used metals and stones that are shiny but of no practical use as currency because they are pretty to humans. The Chinese used silver but used paper money as the currency, the Incas adorned their temple of the moon with silver, the pyramids were white and shiny, etc.
I mean, obsidian is shiny as fuck and pretty but the Aztecs and Mayans only used it to make mirrors and awesome slicing sword/axe kinda things. Bronze can be shiny, but the Incas used it for surgical tools. People like shiny stuff.
I mean, obsidian is shiny as fuck and pretty but the Aztecs and Mayans only used it to make mirrors and awesome slicing sword/axe kinda things. Bronze can be shiny, but the Incas used it for surgical tools. People like shiny stuff.
Jimmy... Dead.
contemplative curmudgeon
NO! lol Of course we made it that way! Paper money is by far more efficient than carrying & exchanging metal, crystal, chickens etc. and the consumption of oil in everything from automobiles, house heating, airplane travel, plastics, etc... that sustains our affluent way of life.
