OT: Mac Gaming.

[Nitronium Blood]

I've come to realise though my recent months of work using Windows, that Microsoft's intention right from the very start was to build a 'business' orientated system. They have just tried their hardest, and still are, to 'slap on' the entertainment stuff afterwards.

I have always thought of my PC as an entertainment system, but I am beginning to see though this. I have come to realise that Apple's intentions were always to build an entertainment and general all rounder fun machine, and slap on the business stuff later... not vice versa. For Apple, fun comes first.

Having said that, I just find it absurd that PCs have the market share of games. A business platform haing the maket share of games.

When I address this, most people usually say something like:

"well, since Pcs have 98% marketshare (or whatever), most developers would like to focus their efforts on the larger slice of the pie blah blah".

Now while this does sound fair enough, I wonder, if big names like Avid/Digidesign and Adobe develop for Apple, why can't all the Gaming big guns? Sure there are some big ports like Quake 4, Doom 3, WoW... but the rest???

I'm so fed up of Windows. Seriously. The second Steve Jobs announces some sort of agressive game development push, is the time I will buy a Mac. That is the only thing holding me back.

Right now the Mac is king for all thing fun. Why the hell can't it add Games to the things it does best.

 

[cobhc]

That is what is holding me back as well, the fact that 99% of software isn't compatible with mac's. I also find this the case with moving from windows to something like linux.

 

[Ermz]

I always saw Mac as the 'business' platform, as it seems to be the most widely used for design applications. I don't think there was anything really 'slapped on' with Windows. XP caters to the lowest common denominator. Out of the box it's an unoptimized pile of trash, but being that, it can run graphic design software, A/V software, spreadsheet software, games, DVDs and whatnot.

If you take the time out, you can optimize XP to be a gaming workhorse. There are plenty of tweaking guides on the internet. You can really clean up your OS using them.

That's the thing with XP, it's a jack of all trades but master of none type deal. If you devote some of your time to learning how to make it work for you, you can get more out of it.

 

[James Murphy]

i get maximum "fun" out of my macs doing what they do best.. making music and graphics and video.. mostly music in my case though i am dabbling in video these days. i will not install a game on my macs... simply wont do it. when i want to play a game i turn on my Xbox 360 or my PSP. computers are for work.... and if you're lucky, like me, your work is fun.

 

[Andy Sneap]

thats odd cause all my macs are for porn....

 

[James Murphy]

thats odd cause all my macs are for porn....

well, that's a given.

 

[Pman]

thats odd cause all my macs are for porn....

hahaha
please take your porn business elsewhere andy

 

[Andy Sneap]

blame lee b

 

[Polpotkin]

I think that PC is the utlimate pr0n entertainment system on the market these days

 

[Benny H]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpBXv14a8U

 

[Kazrog]

There's plenty of games for the Mac actually, there always have been. Any major PC game releases have Mac versions. And now that you can run Windows at full-speed on a Mac, you can run Windows games on the Mac, too.

Ultimately the "push" to develop games for the Mac is a matter of economics, and all that Apple can really do to push that along is gain market share (which they are doing a great job of right now.) Game developers sometimes decide that it's not worth the effort to make a Mac version of their games because they see it as a smaller market. That perception is shifting as the Mac gains market share, so I believe we'll see more games being brought to the Mac (and made exclusively for it) over time.

 

[Nitronium Blood]

we'll see more games being brought to the Mac (and made exclusively for it) over time.

Mate, I wish that happens soon. As I said, Macs have covered everything fun... I think its about time they added Games to their list the Mac does best.

 

[Kazrog]

Mate, I wish that happens soon. As I said, Macs have covered everything fun... I think its about time they added Games to their list the Mac does best.

You can play all of your PC games on the Mac at full speed man. What the hell is your problem? Did you even read my fucking post or just skip ahead to that one line you quoted?

 

[mmetalmilitiaa]

You can play all of your PC games on the Mac at full speed man. What the hell is your problem? Did you even read my fucking post or just skip ahead to that one line you quoted?

full speed... if not faster.

 

[Pman]

full speed... if not faster.

wow
faster than full speed?

 

[JBroll]

I stick with Windows because I've been using it since it came out - I could barely speak before I was goofing around with computers and figuring out how stuff worked, and I just haven't had the time or money to put into a Mac. I strongly considered getting a Mac when the time came to get a laptop for school, but as most others I would not have been able to do the stuff I'd be buying the computer for (physics/engineering nonsense for school) without spending months trying to learn the Mac way of doing things. If I ever have the money to spend on one, I'll get a Mac and start learning my way around, but for right now I don't have the time or energy to put into working OS X as my second boot option, or learning how to overclock and monitor MB stats the way I can with my Windows toys, or figuring out the little tricks and backdoors that I've learned over 15 years of Windows (and before that, MS-DOS) use.

Plus, I just plunked down the $40 on Half-Life 2 and spent hours tweaking the little bugger I have right now so that I can run everything the way I want it (i.e. all settings on max at more than 30fps); I know I wouldn't have half a chance in hell of finding the things I had to do on a Mac, so even after I hear all this about Macs running the same equipment much more efficiently, unless Apple has some way of making a 1.66gHz laptop run as fast as an out-of-the-box 3gHz, I'm just going to have to stick to PC gaming while I'm on the budget I'm stuck with right now.

Jeff

 

[::XeS::]

http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=24

 

[SPLASTiK]

Well you can run your Windows games on a new Intel Mac in Windows or WINE

I think mainly it's marketshare that's been holding people back and the IBM processors as they have a completely different architecture they'd have to port for. With the growing Apple marketshare and switching to Intel Processors I bet we'll be seeing more games in the future.

 

[Nitronium Blood]

You can play all of your PC games on the Mac at full speed man. What the hell is your problem? Did you even read my fucking post or just skip ahead to that one line you quoted?

I know the Mac can run games at full speed, if not faster. It's just that I wish there were more for the Mac. I meant add it as a major strenght, once the market-share is achieved, to their 'promotion' list.

Imagine this in their Mac Guy/Pc Guy advertising for example, or in their 'All the reasons you never bought a mac, now not true' section of their website, once a huge rise in Apple Gaming market share exists, eg 12. Lack Of Games - With 90% of the worlds Best developers and publishers creating games for Apple, you can be sure to get your gaming groove on. Etc etc.

So are you still pissed?

 

[Nitronium Blood]

thats odd cause all my macs are for porn....

Divx?